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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Damage has already been done and there is no alternative except the AfD who has become shady, that doesn't mean the Gernans are appy with her, big dispite
    What do you mean by "shady"?

    @Husar English version of this por favor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    @Husar English version of this por favor?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_the_Wise

    Apparently this theatric version doesn't end well though, noone listens to reason and they all shout "God is great!" at the end. Don't think I can find a local newspaper article in English if that is what you're after.
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    Skin color is a silly reason to fear anybody.

    Are their concerns with assimilation of refugees and immigrants? Cultural values that clash and which may tend to radicalize a higher percentage of these immigrants than from previous immigrant groups? Certainly.

    Even so, the bulk of those immigrating or living as refugees are more or less decent people just trying to better their lot in life. You need to deal with the problem ones without unfairly stereotyping the group at large.

    To give Merkel a dash of credit, Germany has allowed in more refugees per capita than many other polities in Europe, while having no more -- and arguably compared to France and Sweden notably less -- of the problems associated with these groups than the rest in the EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_the_Wise

    Apparently this theatric version doesn't end well though, noone listens to reason and they all shout "God is great!" at the end. Don't think I can find a local newspaper article in English if that is what you're after.
    I read the original play in English translation, I meant this new version - English text or video with subtitles. Probably not to be found.

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    To give Merkel a dash of credit, Germany has allowed in more refugees per capita than many other polities in Europe, while having no more -- and arguably compared to France and Sweden notably less -- of the problems associated with these groups than the rest in the EU.
    The recent wave of refugees and attendant difficulties is notably separate from any problems Germany and France and have had with long-established Turkish or North African demographics, respectively.

    The most serious impediments to cultural harmony in Europe today are largely a factor of nativist right-wing hostility and intransigence. One precondition to flourishing is the rejection of both the European and Muslim reactionary elements.

    It's sad that Eastern Europeans are among the worst offenders, because with their commitment their countries' depopulated rural zones could be revitalized through refugee resettlement and investment.

    If you want another moonbat lefty humanist work of theater, set a play where Syrians arrive in the Bulgarian mountains, a lonely babushka finds meaning in her life by becoming engaged in the upbringing of the newcomers' children, everyone learns the value of community, everyone is sad when the seniors pass away, but are left optimistic with an eye to the future. THE END
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    The most serious impediments to cultural harmony in Europe today are largely a factor of nativist right-wing hostility and intransigence. One precondition to flourishing is the rejection of both the European and Muslim reactionary elements.
    No, the problems happen when you have large amounts of working-class immigrants of certain origins concentrating in specific places. It is the common denominator of France and Sweden, and is an outcome that becomes more probable the higher the relevant immigration rates are - naturally.
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    What rightwing-hostility by the way? Violence is exclusive to the black hoodies, anti-facists lol@that

    Ah well, it's good for the economy, organs got a lot cheaper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    I read the original play in English translation, I meant this new version - English text or video with subtitles. Probably not to be found.



    The recent wave of refugees and attendant difficulties is notably separate from any problems Germany and France and have had with long-established Turkish or North African demographics, respectively.

    The most serious impediments to cultural harmony in Europe today are largely a factor of nativist right-wing hostility and intransigence. One precondition to flourishing is the rejection of both the European and Muslim reactionary elements.

    It's sad that Eastern Europeans are among the worst offenders, because with their commitment their countries' depopulated rural zones could be revitalized through refugee resettlement and investment.

    If you want another moonbat lefty humanist work of theater, set a play where Syrians arrive in the Bulgarian mountains, a lonely babushka finds meaning in her life by becoming engaged in the upbringing of the newcomers' children, everyone learns the value of community, everyone is sad when the seniors pass away, but are left optimistic with an eye to the future. THE END
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    If the actual American experience (as opposed to Trump's bugbear in the closet) is anything to go by, immigrants are responsible for less crime/capita than natural born citizens.
    Problems with the data aside, this would suggest a viable way to reduce the crime rate is increased immigration

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal...by-immigrants/
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    If the actual American experience (as opposed to Trump's bugbear in the closet) is anything to go by, immigrants are responsible for less crime/capita than natural born citizens.
    Problems with the data aside, this would suggest a viable way to reduce the crime rate is increased immigration

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal...by-immigrants/
    This is wonderfully ironic, in that the non-diploma'd male population who bothered to vote at all voted overwhelmingly for Trump. And the study suggests that, setting aside illegal entry to the USA as moot, the non-diploma'd male subset is 8 times more likely to engage in criminal behaviors than male illegals of a similar age.
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

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    Default Re: Germany gazing into the abyss (federal elections)

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    What do you mean by "shady"?
    They kinda freak me out since Frauke left, the reliance on bringing up the nazi-past and the constant framing of people who have very good reasons to be against mass-immigration is backfiring, a lot of Germans had enough of of that, a bit too much it seems at least
    Last edited by Fragony; 09-22-2017 at 08:00.

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