Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Winston Hughes]

Can you elaborate?

Town's job is to use the time available to rebalance the information equation in its favour.

Scum's job is to ensure town guesses wrong at eod.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Town's job is to use the time available to rebalance the information equation in its favour.

Scum's job is to ensure town guesses wrong at eod.

For the town part you're generally correct, but I think you're oversimplifying the mafia's job. There's a lot more nuance to it, working on multiple levels to ensure both short and longterm success.

Luckily all I have to do is just say what's on my mind this game.

[Winston Hughes]

Show me the good stuff, GH.

[reinoe]

Exciting stuff is happening. Catching only snippets Fredwood came out townie and GH came out awkward. Not sure if scummy though.

I can understand someone not voting their top scumread. For example logic has at least one "pseudo-vote" from Winston and I wouldn't mind going there myself. But I want to see a counterwagon and see how it develops and who's on it. Even though I haven't felt great about zack I can say that his 3 person wagon is not cool.
@GeneralHanderkerchief

Whom are your scumspects from strongest to weakest?

[Winston Hughes]

Zack
pizza
Monty
Fredwood
Dp101

Townpile.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Zack
pizza
Monty
Fredwood
Dp101

Townpile.

What Zack has been doing with the early towncred looks worse and worse. I think he's trying to manipulate the town from his lofty perch in most people's town piles, and push bad lynches and defend the correct lynchees, since he won't get punished for it.

GH
Logic
El Barto
Manasi
choxorn

scumpile

Not GH at all, I don't think. Not Barto this early. I feel like he's just vulnerable and a possible get for the scums.

Otherwise we're really in close agreement.

[Winston Hughes]

GH
Logic
El Barto
Manasi
choxorn

scumpile

[Winston Hughes]

Slaan
Csargo
Kage
Cuth
reinoe
Xiahou

remainder

[Montmorency]

I'm still comfortable with my vote, but GH is giving me a scummy vibe too.



I don't care for this either.

Hi.

GH
Logic
El Barto
Manasi
choxorn

scumpile

What do you think of Choxorn?

[Montmorency]

Can you clarify the ordering in those piles, if they are ordered?

[Zack]

Slaan
Csargo
Kage
Cuth
reinoe
Xiahou

remainder

I think you and logic are the only ones that low on Kage. Anything specific there?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Slaan
Csargo
Kage
Cuth
reinoe
Xiahou

remainder

Slaan easily town, reinoe still easily town too imo.

No bad vibes from Kage or Cuth at all.

Not much from Xiahou but given the lack of pressure on him, and the attention so focused elsewhere, the thread is a field of dreams for a scum to plop themselves in and get a bunch of posts out there so they are not even being considered. It's such a level 1 move.

I don't think Xiahou's lack of posting is something that should be held against him. He's gonna come out and my prediction is he'll end up town when he does. His couple of posts were also nice. Not enough to town read but they were good.

[Zack]

Don't like this post.

Feels like Fredwood's playing 72/24, while GH is looking to eod.

Town play the day, scum play for the deadliine.

Town's job is to use the time available to rebalance the information equation in its favour.

Scum's job is to ensure town guesses wrong at eod.

This progression seems off to me. It reads like you were trying to insert an opportunity to grandstand about that, because I've squinted my eyes in confusion a few times to try and find the relevance to the argument between GH and Fred, and it's not there.

On that point, I think they both come out of it looking good, actually.

GH's big post looks townie in itself, but it feels a little scummy to me that he'd make that his main engagement with the thread at this stage.

Where's the chat, GH?

This post got me thinking about one thing that bugged me about GH in pokemon. I had him near the top of my reads lists almost the whole time I was alive, embarrassingly, but I remember still being frustrated that he wasn't engaging with me more in the thread. He seemed to pop in and out, and if he didn't want to answer a question, he'd leave the thread and ignore it. In contrast, so far that hasn't been the case (even as I know he's busy with another game). Winston was on the right track in that, if GH is a wolf he probably just drops that text bomb and leaves. But he stuck around and picked fights. And I think he really did see things in Fred's post that bothered him, and he wanted to dig in.

Fred's side looks really pure -- dunno if as a wolf he's capable of taking that criticism so easily in stride like that. Fred's back up again, but I still think that post is problematic if one of Barto and Logic is a wolf.

Upon reflection, Winston probably good too -- I think he'd be more content to stay in the background a bit more if he was scum.

Csargo responding to the Xiahou post with a simple, "why?" is EXACTLY how I was going to respond to it. X only voted me because I had a lot of posts (even though he thanked one of them, so clearly he didn't really mind that much), he never said I was scummy that I remember, but he seems to be implying that he did find something legitimately wolfy about me. I've only played with him in Pirate Ship Mafia, don't remember his behavior at all outside of the 200 gold fiasco, which I don't think is relevant here. In any case, not enough of an issue yet for me to go digging through past games for clues.