Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Slaan]

Belated, but that's too much man.


There's a problem with this game. Despite yet another record-breaking D1 for post count, there isn't really all that much left to analyze. There haven't been many twists or turns, D1 had been relatively straightforward in its course and D2 is non-existent.

So there's not much to speculate on and not much point in striving for that speculation. We blew the load D1 and left D2 without a natural progression.

What that means is there's nothing much left for us to do other than get a flip and suck up the info, which then further railroads the game course and leaves us with even less to do or discuss.

100% agree here.... The Logic flip doesnt do much so far... but I'm afraid a GH flip wouldnt do much either since ther eis hardly any controversy about it. Manasi checked inf or a sex and said she thinks he is town without going further into it and thats about it. Idk how would defend GH at this point anyway... especially if he is mafia.

I'm gonna laugh hard if manasi/chox/GH are our last 3 mafia and they feel so defeated rn that they don't even really attempt to play.

[Zack]

I don't get why so many people are acting like gh is outed

[Dp101]

I don't get why so many people are acting like gh is outed

Have you not read the cases against him? They are pretty damming. I don’t get why you can’t see why so many people think he’s outed.

[Slaan]

Why do you think GH isnt* mafia

[Zack]

Have you not read the cases against him? They are pretty damming. I don’t get why you can’t see why so many people think he’s outed.

I've skimmed some

I'm unconvinced and it's certainly not enough for the entire game to call him an essentially outed wolf less than 1/3 into the phase

[Choxorn]

It's cute that you still think I'm dying today.

What makes you think you're not dying?

[Dp101]

What makes you think you're not dying?

Hi. Would you kindly clear yourself if you have the time, or at least, post enough that you become readable. Having half your posts this phase being either duplicates or apologising about duplicates is not the greatest of looks.

[reinoe]

Hi. Would you kindly clear yourself if you have the time, or at least, post enough that you become readable. Having half your posts this phase being either duplicates or apologising about duplicates is not the greatest of looks.

This is townie. Remember all that sass I gave DP near the start of D1? He's expressing the same eye-rolling frustration here with Choxorn. This "stop complaining and get to work" attitude.

But I have a problem...

Choxorn, Zack, and GH. It's the same paranoia Slaan was expressing earlier. They can't all be scum...because the game would be too easy.

[Choxorn]

It's cute that you still think I'm dying today.

What makes you think you're not dying?

[Choxorn]

My bad about the double post.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I even think they're both town, so.

Basically what I wanted to talk about today was who doesn't belong in my town, and even the POE'd suspects haven't given me a real good reason why any of them don't go there.

DP101 is not mafia, so that's a no sell. Surprised people aren't even pushing reinoe, he doesn't have meta on this site and enterprising scumbags should think he's gettable.

Starting to see why end of day 1 went so badly for the wolves. They probably saw before we did how badly the rest of the game goes for them, had to do something.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So again, just putting this out there

Askthepizzaguy
Kagemusha
Dp101
Slaan
-------
Fredwood
Monty
reinoe
------
Cuth
Xiahou

Who doesn't go there? That's my tiers and people aren't even pushing against them. The top 4 are just rock solid, and all of day 1 looks fantastic for the next 3.

Xiahou hasn't done enough to look scummy. I mean even if I somehow sucked at reading Cuth, where you gonna put the black pieces to avoid checkmate here?

Basically you gotta wait it out and hope town gets into silly time and lynches above one of those lines. Boring.

[Slaan]

So again, just putting this out there

Askthepizzaguy
Kagemusha
Dp101
Slaan
-------
Fredwood
Monty
reinoe
------
Cuth
Xiahou

Who doesn't go there? That's my tiers and people aren't even pushing against them. The top 4 are just rock solid, and all of day 1 looks fantastic for the next 3.

Xiahou hasn't done enough to look scummy. I mean even if I somehow sucked at reading Cuth, where you gonna put the black pieces to avoid checkmate here?

Basically you gotta wait it out and hope town gets into silly time and lynches above one of those lines. Boring.

I'm not sure on Monty tbh, but too lazy to do the work rn. Fred/rein look fine and cuth/xia... both I have in my null, wouldnt know why to put either as towny.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy
Kagemusha
Dp101
Slaan
Fredwood <--- Lock today if not yesterday
Monty <--- Lock based on body of work this game
-----
reinoe <--- Lock on Zack scum flip, strong townie regardless
Xiahou <--- Should be lock now, but is definitely lock on Zack scum flip
------
Cuth <--- Remember how Logic needled him passive-aggressively.


That's nine townies and a win. It's only not a win if one of these is a wolf. Which one? Please look but don't vote anytime soon.

[Montmorency]

I even think they're both town, so.

Basically what I wanted to talk about today was who doesn't belong in my town, and even the POE'd suspects haven't given me a real good reason why any of them don't go there.

DP101 is not mafia, so that's a no sell. Surprised people aren't even pushing reinoe, he doesn't have meta on this site and enterprising scumbags should think he's gettable.

Starting to see why end of day 1 went so badly for the wolves. They probably saw before we did how badly the rest of the game goes for them, had to do something.

I like POE/spreadsheet thinking, but let's not get too excited when the game just began.

Including today we have 7 lynches (assuming standard 1 death per night).

[Reinoe?]
[Xiahou | Cuth]
[GH | Zack]
[Chox
Bart
Manasi]

So there's some margin of error, even if there are no sleeper agents among your lock town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I like POE/spreadsheet thinking, but let's not get too excited when the game just began.

Including today we have 7 lynches (assuming standard 1 death per night).

[Reinoe?]
[Xiahou | Cuth]
[GH | Zack]
[Chox
Bart
Manasi]

So there's some margin of error, even if there are no sleeper agents among your lock town.

This is what I'd do.

1) GH dies today
2) Zack goes next
3) Manasi
4) Choxorn
5) Don't even care who next, think the game is over by then. Whoever is still alive that isn't in my top 2 tiers, to make it interesting.

[Askthepizzaguy]

We have 8 town-controlled deaths. Remember I can vig people with my magical pointer finger of pew pew pew, despite my vanilla townie-ness.

*shifty eyes*

[Askthepizzaguy]

You could invert choxorn and Manasi if you wanted. Don't care. Choxorn at least looks like he's trying to look like a townie, give him a phase to lynch the scum that isn't him I guess.

[Slaan]

I don't get why so many people are acting like gh is outed

Why do you think GH is mafia? Who would your lynch be?

[Zack]

how about you read my posts instead of asking stuff I already talked about

[Slaan]

how about you read my posts instead of asking stuff I already talked about

So I just went ahead and read every post so made D2 so far and there were only two in regards to defending GH, one where someone else asked you about your townread on GH where you responded like this

I have either already explained any answer to the questions you're asking, or don't think it's prudent to answer.

and an independed one

I don't think GH goes for the "lolchaos" trick twice as a wolf

And I'm a bit lazy and don't want to ISO you 100% rn to find your D1 defence of GH especially since it will raise questions anyway considering GH's defence of Logic D1 and Logics subsequent scum flip. So please, explain us your townread on GH given all the information we have right now, would be much appreciated.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm gonna laugh hard if manasi/chox/GH are our last 3 mafia and they feel so defeated rn that they don't even really attempt to play.

If my townies are all correct the game's over.

Pretty sure one of Cuth or Xiahou is town and if I pick the right one it's gg.

Then it's just a shit ton of phases where we kill the POE starting with the scummiest people.

And it's kind of obvious who even needs to die first. Like Barto seems fine now, for example.