Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Cuthillius]

all that aside, you dying in the next couple nights is probably pretty unlikely

[Montmorency]

i'm a little weirded out by the lovers apparently not being mod-confirmed that the other is in fact town, and while i think it makes more mechanical sense and is more likely from sooh's pov afaik for them to be v/v, i'm not 100% convinced there and hope they're one of the earlier NKs

all that aside, you dying in the next couple nights is probably pretty unlikely

This is interesting to bring up. Could you explain your thought process predicting the last kills? Best of all to post it just before the round ends.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If one of the lovers is scum,

If it's Monty I don't mind. I mean, I pointed out the tie creation stuff. And I've been saying his wolf game is amazing.

This one just a cut above everything else.

If it's Csargo, Monty can decide on that and lynch him tomorrow. I am just going to assume he should be able to scum-read Csargo. I said why he can be scum.

Interesting that neither one ever got shot, but there were a lot of townier looking people.

But it feels like we've collectively decided that mechanically they can't be scum, so if that's wrong we just lose and I feel a lot less bad about it because then we're all in the same boat.

Plus they played it cool enough that it is a deserving win.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Personally?

I hope it's Cool Hand Xiahuke.

Showing me something I've never seen before from a low talker and playing the whole game ice cold.

I'd smile.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I had two shots, I'd lynch Cuth, and then Csargo.

Xiahou for the win.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I guess technically the order would need to be reversed, just in case Monty's win condition triggers at f4

[Askthepizzaguy]

So... Csargo final 6 lynchee, kills him and Monty.

Then Cuth in final 3.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't think that's gonna happen, so. We will probably lynch inside Xiahou and Cuth and then see how that panned out.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Afk.

[Cuthillius]

This is interesting to bring up. Could you explain your thought process predicting the last kills? Best of all to post it just before the round ends.

i mean it's not rocket science

power roles and getting two birds with one stone

these both take priority over pizza most likely especially if wolf is someone who he is/was protecting which is almost the entire game at this point

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, if you want me to vote, don't speed lynch next round.

[Montmorency]

i mean it's not rocket science

power roles and getting two birds with one stone

these both take priority over pizza most likely especially if wolf is someone who he is/was protecting which is almost the entire game at this point

I wish you had posted this a bit later, but OK. My implication was that Mafia in the abstract would take less value from killing me and Csargo, because getting rid of two townies matters less in endgame if it reverts the rounds from even numbers to odd numbers. Keeping us around would therefore be better for Mafia as long as they have hope of mislynching us, otherwise they would end up in LYLO facing two townies rather than a more malleable three. I don't like putting this out in public since it would actually be useful for town if we got killed (and not lynched), so the best hope would be that Mafia doesn't recognize the calculation and just try to get rid of us, but there isn't a point in keeping it on the low anymore. Either it happens right now or it doesn't.

We're not power roles; we can't do anything other than share a QT and a life.

As for your last sentence, do I understand that you're saying Pizza is a doctor? I feel like I'm misunderstanding.

[Sooh]

Good morning everyone!

Ready for another stretch?

Off we go, and remember, it's only a game.... isn't it?

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Choxorn has left the building. He was:

Ron Weasley.



While you can come across as a clutz at times, you are a master at Wizard Chess, a skill that has proven useful to you in the past. Given your skills in magic you are able to give those you trust among you certain powers.

During the night you can choose to study a spell. Once you can study a spell which will give your selected target [redacted]. However, since this is deep magic, you are limited to giving each trusted friend only one power. They aren't wizards like you, you know.

You are a town role baker.

EOD6:

[Dp101]

Well that flavour is certainly unexpected. Was kinda hoping one of the lovers gets shot so that we don't have to tinfoil the setup.

[Montmorency]

Well that flavour is certainly unexpected. Was kinda hoping one of the lovers gets shot so that we don't have to tinfoil the setup.

Sounds like he had unlimited shots.

My Vote: Xiahou, is.

[Montmorency]

948 is GH's big reads post, 948.

See also this post for the basic observations and argument: Xiahou is discussed (but not interacted with) in a way that GH-Zack as a pair don't evidence wrt anyone else; they both give noncommittal, nullish assessments.

Remember Reinoe's cool tell about Zack commenting on everyone except Logic (296)? And then Zack asked Logic what he thought about people townreading Kage (496 and answer 518)? History doesn't repeat itself - but Zack does rhyme.

More detailed breakdowns by player for checking my work:

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Xiahou: GH put him just below his townline, but wanted to townread him (948). Zack shaded Xiahou for his vote on him but kept him nullish to be resolved later (920), and this indirectly by responding to Csargo asking Xiahou "why" for keeping his vote on Zack and sussing GH.

DEAD SCUM

Logic: GH and Zack take largely similar positions that Logic had a few stains in his play but was mostly like in other games, except where there were differences in how this game's D1 played out - especially as regards Pizza's pressure on him out the gate.

Zack: GH has Zack as top town (948); also wants to know his meta to better read him, townreads as wolf (late 400s-early 500s; Winston finds it towny). Logic never tries to assess Zack.

GH: I'm not sure Zack ever states an outright read on GH (says he and Fred both look good in their exchange, 920), but wants to know GH's meta better to better read him (486-491). Logic may have to re-evaluate GH since he townreads Kage (518).

DEAD TOWN

Barto: GH is nullish, won't be able to read until he flips, self-admittedly a lazy read (744), but by the reads compilation has him scummy third-from-bottom (948). Zack goes hard against Barto (600s, 829),

Choxorn: GH's second-to-bottom scumread (948), just before he votes him. Zack likes the case against him and is the second to vote (931).

Fredwood: GH shades gratuitously (400s), then leans on DP's reads to help read Fred town for the day (744). But by the time of the big leans post (948), Fred is back in moderate scum. Zack has Fred as one of his first comfortable above-null reads, along with Slaan and DP (474); finds both GH and Fred townier after their exchange later ().

Kage: GH has Kage as top town below Zack. Logic goes hard after Kage for voting Slaan (397/9). Zack feels better about Kage after talking to GH (491).

Manasi: GH votes Manasi (838) as a seeming random or pressure vote. Zack asks how well he reads Manasi, and GH says he reads her "reasonably well" (855); Zack meanwhile reads Manasi "not too good, and by which I mean horrible" (860), and that's the end about Manasi for the day.

Reinoe: Shaded by Logic for voting him (397), possibly sheeping Pizza. GH starts by sussing both Reinoe and Fred (477), but eventually Reinoe improves into moderate town (695, 710, 948), but with no progression; one post GH is looking at Reinoe, next he's moderate town w/ no comment. Zack never gives a specific read, but he shades Reinoe for kicking the puppylike DP (474), asks him some questions.

Slaan: Logic thinks town wrt Kage (457). GH starts wary of him but eventually improves to moderate town (477, 948); Slaan is a player who improves as the game goes on. Zack says Slaan seems fine, maybe a good wolf but not worth pursuing early (491).

Winston: Zack susses several times after a playful, mutually passive-agressive start, ultimately settles on Winston probably good (920). Logic shades Winston wrt the problem with lynching Pizza (457). GH has him nullish, second above the town line (948).

LIVING

Csargo: Logic said Csargo and Pizza not teamed, one but not both a wolf (397). Zack had an early-game vote exchange with Csargo, shades him sometimes, got into a meta dispute (high 200s); sometimes accused Pizza of tunneling or wanting to mislynch Csargo (563, 787). Doesn't want to push him, but doesn't want to town-read him (741). See also piggybacking wrt Xiahou (920). GH votes Csargo just after game start (12), shades over posting a gif Csargo had posted previously as scum (372), accuses Pizza of tunneling Csargo and Logic (686), ultimately has him null just below his town line (948).

Cuth: Attacked by all 3 scum (uniquely). Shaded by Logic (397) for shading DP, having feelings no one else does. Zack tears into him... GH votes him but by the long reads post (948) has him moderate scum, between Xiahou and Fredwood.

DP: Logic says town, not teamed with Zack or Pizza (397). GH (477, 948) and Zack both think he's town, until the sudden flip with the CFD.

Monty: GH had me as 3rd most town (948). Zack seemed to be increasingly hostile as OMGUS over the day, culminating in the CFD (note how Zack was confronted early in the day about an alleged OMGUS habit by Csargo, a habit he vehemently denied.) Logic had no comment on me other than shading Pizza when I asked him about interactions between DP and Pizza.

Pizza: Logic shades for acting weird (397, others). GH and Zack threw plenty of criticisms, but overall liked to read him town.

Side note: Looking back GH had some sloppy progressions on the low-posters and Fred up to his culmination for the day, the 948 reads post.