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    Are you discussing gender-neutral in how language is biased against women and the movement to make it gender-neutral as not to imply a preference? This would be changing statements from "A man's personal right to freedom of expression shall not to be infringed upon" to "A person's personal right to freedom of expression shall not be infringed upon" then there are words such as man-kind, his-story, etc.

    Then there are things like the 'worst insult' apparently refers to a woman's vagina. As a heterosexual male, do you dislike a women's vaginas that you use the c-word to insult other people? You really have to question what those people are actually saying sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    then there are words such as man-kind, his-story, etc.
    Isn't mankind just short for humankind and isn't history spelled with just one s and how exactly do they perpetuate anything? Maybe it's because I'm an ESL fool and the German words for them seem neutral, but to me they are descriptive terms and that's it. I did think about mankind before though, but I'm not sure how using these terms is supposed to be bad for women.

    The insults seem to be more clear, yes, but they're not just a gender issue since disability and some other things are also used for insults.


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    No, history is not derived from his-story, it's just a coincidence of language latched on to by those who want to be seen as cleverer than they actually are, language tricks are a common substitute for profundity in feminist philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    then there are words such as man-kind, his-story, etc.
    And what is even scarier "woman" comes from "man with a womb". English is so sexist. I advise abandoning it altogether. After all the Brits could Brexit, why others can't do the same about their language?

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    Maybe it's because I'm an ESL fool and the German words for them seem neutral...
    Oh really? German nouns and adjectives have gender. That is enough to call it gender biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    And what is even scarier "woman" comes from "man with a womb". English is so sexist. I advise abandoning it altogether. After all the Brits could Brexit, why others can't do the same about their language?
    In the USA, we punted English quite a while back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Are you discussing gender-neutral in how language is biased against women and the movement to make it gender-neutral as not to imply a preference? This would be changing statements from "A man's personal right to freedom of expression shall not to be infringed upon" to "A person's personal right to freedom of expression shall not be infringed upon" then there are words such as man-kind, his-story, etc.

    Then there are things like the 'worst insult' apparently refers to a woman's vagina. As a heterosexual male, do you dislike a women's vaginas that you use the c-word to insult other people? You really have to question what those people are actually saying sometimes.
    Correct form would be that backwards Indo-European languages are biased against women. Some other more developed languages have no such bias:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    Correct form would be that backwards Indo-European languages are biased against women. Some other more developed languages have no such bias:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Are you discussing gender-neutral in how language is biased against women and the movement to make it gender-neutral as not to imply a preference? This would be changing statements from "A man's personal right to freedom of expression shall not to be infringed upon" to "A person's personal right to freedom of expression shall not be infringed upon" then there are words such as man-kind, his-story, etc.

    Then there are things like the 'worst insult' apparently refers to a woman's vagina. As a heterosexual male, do you dislike a women's vaginas that you use the c-word to insult other people? You really have to question what those people are actually saying sometimes.
    Did you know, the word "Vagina" is inherently sexist?

    So is the word "person".

    Isn't Latin great?

    There is, in fact, no such thing as a "Gender-Neutral" word because all words, in all languages, have gendered roots.
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