Feminism out of control?

[Montmorency]

I don't agree with they on this?!

Them.

[Husar]

Them.

I'll just stick with "you", thank them very much.

I mean, eh, forget it, I was originally talking about lists like this: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...acebook-users/

Why anyone would be insulted if I don't know how they identify on such a list was my original question if I recall correctly. I'm getting confused by them/that/this/it/us/you?!?!? now.
I mean I wanted to tell Fragony that it's probably not worth getting bothered by it just because someone thinks that's what the options should be. And no, I usually don't ask anyone what they would pick from that list, what weirdo came up with that idea again? Wasn't me!

[Fragony]

I'll just stick with "you", thank them very much.

I mean, eh, forget it, I was originally talking about lists like this: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...acebook-users/

Why anyone would be insulted if I don't know how they identify on such a list was my original question if I recall correctly. I'm getting confused by them/that/this/it/us/you?!?!? now.
I mean I wanted to tell Fragony that it's probably not worth getting bothered by it just because someone thinks that's what the options should be. And no, I usually don't ask anyone what they would pick from that list, what weirdo came up with that idea again? Wasn't me!

Just one example out of many, many examples become a trend. I cannot ignore it unless I stop reading newspapers, magazines, stop watching tv, etc.

Latest one, in England this time, sorry my person can't come to the party, my person is pregnant. 'What is it?', it's a ehhhhh person

Totally necesary as the pregnant woman could be a transgender

Can we talk about sexual-marxism yet? Touchy I know

[Husar]

You still watch TV?

[Fragony]

You still watch TV?

Haven't for ten years or so but I do get the tasty bits

[Husar]

Haven't for ten years or so but I do get the tasty bits

Then I can only assume you go to right wing blogs and/like geenstijl and they bombard you with leftist propaganda for you to hate and then you blame the leftists for being pushy because the right wingers show their ideas to you every day. Does that come close?

[Fragony]

Then I can only assume you go to right wing blogs and/like geenstijl and they bombard you with leftist propaganda for you to hate and then you blame the leftists for being pushy because the right wingers show their ideas to you every day. Does that come close?

They do that yeah the really obvious and juicy parts at least, but no you don't come close, there are these places called other people's homes and they watch these discussion programs a lot, if you ever come there the guy ready to explode is me handle with care

[Gilrandir]

It only means your argument about these women is disrespectful.
You cannot expect them to react like you think you would because you're not them.
The thing is that if you had made the same experiences, you wouldn't be you either, and might act more like them. Therefore judging their experiences using yours as a basis is nonsensical and one could say you're not taking them seriously as persons.

Monty said that if he declared that your experiences in the US made no sense because they didn't reflect his own experiences and declared you a liar based on this, he'd be doing the same thing to you. He's trying to transform the issue to a topic you might be more involved with in order to make his point clearer.

It has to do with anything in life. Harassment, losing a parent, playing the new popular game, hearing a song, cooking a meal, living through a popular revolt and national crisis...

Don't try to pre-define what other people go through on idle speculation.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. Some women (like Oprah) openly admit what happened to them. Others choose to wait for an indefinite time and then start voicing their indignation and other negative emotions. I totally support the first option and I hold the second one under suspicion since I don't believe emotions could linger that long, that is why the latter option seems insincere to me. It sounds more like a desire to join the trend - ice bucket challenge or "who was filthier harrassed" challenge, in this case. I wouldn't much sympathize with a person who having had indigestion after a meal in a restaurant remembers it 10 years later and starts denouncing its staff.

[Montmorency]

Just one example out of many, many examples become a trend. I cannot ignore it unless I stop reading newspapers, magazines, stop watching tv, etc.

Latest one, in England this time, sorry my person can't come to the party, my person is pregnant. 'What is it?', it's a ehhhhh person

Totally necesary as the pregnant woman could be a transgender

Can we talk about sexual-marxism yet? Touchy I know

If you're referring to this story, the UK government denies that it requested the use of "pregnant person" by the UN. This isn't a UK issue as such, but a stance that some medical organizations in multiple countries have adopted in the past few years.

You should realize that trans issues are much more controversial among feminists than you let on. It's not new; this has been discussed since at least the 1990s. But in my opinion the simplest compromise is "pregnant women and others"; "expectant mother" is also worth retaining since it actually bypasses the concern of gender-prescription here.

Inclusion has become the ultimate liberal fetish. Unfortunately, the uncritical expansion of categories to protect feelings is less inclusion than dilution. “All Lives Matter” is, after all, a demand for inclusion, specifically the inclusion of white trauma into the narrative of black resistance. The classic line used by men’s rights activists – “Sometimes men get beat up by women too!” – is a demand that efforts against domestic violence be “inclusive” as well. But none of these discussions are improved in the least solely by making language less precise.

Whatever you personally think, it shouldn't be surprising that the issue would have to come up in the conversation about how to integrate "trans" into society. If you refuse to stop and think, you will constantly be shocked by everything you come across. And that's a personal problem, not anybody else's.

Cause-starved activists with greasy fingers bother me, this latest hype is articially created and carefully nourished

Here's the thing: none of these ideas or debates come out of nowhere. Here, the general impetus is the question, 'How do we accommodate trans people in society?" That question will have a lot of threads, because society is a big thing. If you can at least contextualize the questions behind your various outrages, they might at least not get you helplessly worked up.

sorry my person can't come to the party, my person is pregnant. 'What is it?', it's a ehhhhh person

In English you say "my spouse", "my partner", or "my SO (significant other)."

[Kadagar_AV]

In English you say "my spouse", "my partner", or "my SO (significant other)."

Mind you, USAnians around.

Them be readin't as My SO significant other




As for the topic at large, I wouldn't at all be against feminism if it actually taught the feminine side the real virtues, as in, use your nose to breath - silly.

["women are dumb"]

[Gilrandir]

It's not like you could ever respect them for their intellectual prowess, as they are rather lackluster in that field.

Too general a claim. In my experience it is rather the opposite.

[Gilrandir]

#Me too?
http://www.eonline.com/news/889345/k...he-early-1990s

[Kadagar_AV]

Mind you, USAnians around.

Them be readin't as My SO significant other




As for the topic at large, I wouldn't at all be against feminism if it actually taught the feminine side the real virtues, as in, use your nose to breath - silly.

Got to respect the girls for their heads, you know. It's not like you could ever respect them for their intellectual prowess, as they are rather lackluster in that field.

Too general a claim. In my experience it is rather the opposite.

Now is it...

*purrs like a kitten*

Well then, I have a week off...

Can you then, throughout history, explain how any sane individual would put mere women (as a group) side to side to our outstanding men?

["women are dumb"]


In all honesty, Cleopatra is one of very few women who actually accomplished things, and let's remember she made it by being all "Lova ya long time". She also killed herself.