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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    If you go to that antifa website: https://revolutionaryabolition.org

    And watch the video, you may actually realize, that we have a case of TWO crazy sides.
    I would assume and hope the anarchists aren't as dangerous, but who knows when these people think they're the US version of the FARC and what not? Are some of their claims legitimate? Yes. Is it very, very crazy to take up arms and massacre people while claiming to end injustice? Yes. They'd have much more credibility if they tried to help Bernie Sanders instead of claiming he'll never get anywhere (which he is even less likely to do if they're not helping him).

    Also, is the guy in the video an actual cop? He sure sounds and also looks like one, but I'm pretty sure if a policeman here made such a video, I'd expect him to get suspended/fired really fast.
    From the website you posted:

    Long Term Goal: Building the Abolitionist Project

    For the Abolitionist project to be successful we must eventually transition from resistance to a revolutionary situation. Relationships and groups built through the underground railroad have the potential to become the foundation for organized defense groups, local councils, and regional/national councils.

    We invite comrades to coordinate our activities regionally, and nationally as part of an Abolitionist Council.
    Anarchists aren't going to attempt an armed insurgency until they feel like they have popular support and there is some sort of government crackdown or major unrest. This is basically what happened in Rojava/North Syria which that website cites as inspiration; the PYD had been organizing underground for years until the civil war broke out and they then took the opportunity to kick the regime out and create their own political institutions.

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    From the website you posted:



    Anarchists aren't going to attempt an armed insurgency until they feel like they have popular support and there is some sort of government crackdown or major unrest. This is basically what happened in Rojava/North Syria which that website cites as inspiration; the PYD had been organizing underground for years until the civil war broke out and they then took the opportunity to kick the regime out and create their own political institutions.
    In fact there's on-site coverage, Vice News or some other networks, of European anarchists who have volunteered to participate in the 'Kurdish experiment'.

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    In fact there's on-site coverage, Vice News or some other networks, of European anarchists who have volunteered to participate in the 'Kurdish experiment'.

    I agree with the socialists: adventurists, the lot.
    Which is kind of funny in a way, because Abdullah Ocalan, the PYD's philosophical leader, was influenced by an American radical named Murray Bookchin, who proposed that the state should be replaced with a confederation of democratic municipal assemblies. Bookchin considered himself an anarchist for many decades but he couldn't convince any other anarchists to adopt his ideas and ended up disowning the anarchist movement. Now that Bookchin is dead and some of his ideas are being implemented in Rojava, anarchists are willing to travel to Syria and risk their lives in support of Rojava's revolution.

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    The militia men right wingers and the ANTIFA guys are both dangerous threats. While most won't actually resort to violence it only takes a few idiots on each side to do violence. If the clamp down is too heavy handed by the authorities it usually galvanizes the extremist which ratchet up their actions too. If it turns into tit-for-tat between groups then it generally escalates and becomes 'normalized.'

    The world has had more than enough violence spells that start out as protests then riots then outright rebellion and it can happen anywhere.

    The color revolutions of Eastern Europe would have turned into civil war if the authorities had chosen to use force.

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    You must have missed the part where they celebrate having street fights against the police and show pride about hurting policemen.
    That is something they do already and it makes them crazy, just like the idea that small communes of people were somehow a solution for all our problems...


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    The best revision of taxes ever!!!
    Does a lot go to the top income bracket? Why yes! Yes it does!!!
    America is about to be drenched in Trickle Down goodness!

    https://wonkette.com/625291/gop-tax-...class-families

    It is indeed amazing how the deficit is no longer an issue with a White Republican in the White House
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    Disinformation! from the White House
    The liar-in-chief is again seeking to switch the conversation from a "Trump did a boo boo" sort of thing; to a "Lock up Hillary!" sort of thing.
    Problem is the "Uranium scandal" was a non-starter when it came out quite some time ago. Today, there is still no case to be made.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/31/...-campaign-yet/

    It might shore up the base for some real fireworks...just in case Mueller tightens the circle a little more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    ...Anarchists aren't going to attempt an armed insurgency until they feel like they have popular support and there is some sort of government crackdown or major unrest. This is basically what happened in Rojava/North Syria which that website cites as inspiration; the PYD had been organizing underground for years until the civil war broke out and they then took the opportunity to kick the regime out and create their own political institutions.
    So the anarchists are waiting to get organized...
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    Maybe "insurgency" was the wrong word, because at that point it would be more of a militia based endeavor like the American Revolution was than a terrorist insurgency like FARC. Either way my point still stands, anarchists aren't stupid/crazy enough to start a random terror campaign like the alt-right hysterics claim they will.

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