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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Trump will personally save up to $15m under tax bill, analysis finds -
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...vings-analysis
    As he should. you pay more you get more. Wealth envy does not create thriving societies. Greed is the key baby! At least its out in the open, not like the rest of these politicians that become Senators making $175,000 a year and when they leave office they are millionaires due to years and years of kick backs and backroom deals. How many of your Euro Elite overlords in your governments in Europe are rich AF while preaching to their peasant class that they are fighting for them? LOL

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    He may not be a Stalinist on economics or a bunch of other issues, but the cult of personality riff works BIG time.
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    He may not be a Stalinist on economics or a bunch of other issues, but the cult of personality riff works BIG time.
    Bigly, the term is BIGLY!!! MAGA! I love My Donald BIGLY!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    As he should. you pay more you get more. Wealth envy does not create thriving societies. Greed is the key baby!
    What is the difference between wealth envy and greed? And people pay more because they get more and they still get more after paying more.
    At some point it will be that you get more and then you get even more....rope or bullets, your choice...


    Make America Communist Again!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    What is the difference between wealth envy and greed? And people pay more because they get more and they still get more after paying more.
    At some point it will be that you get more and then you get even more....rope or bullets, your choice...


    Make America Communist Again!
    Greed by the few elites (Stalin wasn't struggling with his people, neither was Mao, Pol Pot, or any of the Kims in North Korea) does not make the United States communist you silly little German. Just because your country's leadership prefers third world invaders over its own people doesn't give you the right to accuse the United States as becoming communist. Trump was never a communist unlike your leader, honey buns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    [...]doesn't give you the right to accuse the United States as becoming communist.
    You have to be very deeply indoctrinated to think that I was accusing anyone...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    What is the difference between wealth envy and greed? And people pay more because they get more and they still get more after paying more.
    At some point it will be that you get more and then you get even more....rope or bullets, your choice...


    Make America Communist Again!
    The Middle Class/professional Class is too robust in the USA and the potential for socio-economic mobility is frequent enough to undercut any real threat of a communist uprising. If the "1%" ends up going too far, it will be taxed back. These things ebb and flow in the USA.

    In Western Europe, Communism never quite took hold because of the presence of a middle class and political systems that allowed for reform. Perhaps Germany cam the closest in the 20's, but that threat paled (becoming more a foil for the NSDAP than a true takeover threat by the 30's. Italy marginalized the communist threat even sooner. The rest of Central Europe and the Balkans became communist only because of the presence of Soviet armies.

    Communist takeovers have succeeded in China, Cuba, Russia, and Vietnam. None of those would have succeeded if anything RESEMBLING decent institutions existed and/or any government that wasn't utter kleptocracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    The Middle Class/professional Class is too robust in the USA and the potential for socio-economic mobility is frequent enough to undercut any real threat of a communist uprising. If the "1%" ends up going too far, it will be taxed back. These things ebb and flow in the USA.

    In Western Europe, Communism never quite took hold because of the presence of a middle class and political systems that allowed for reform. Perhaps Germany cam the closest in the 20's, but that threat paled (becoming more a foil for the NSDAP than a true takeover threat by the 30's. Italy marginalized the communist threat even sooner. The rest of Central Europe and the Balkans became communist only because of the presence of Soviet armies.

    Communist takeovers have succeeded in China, Cuba, Russia, and Vietnam. None of those would have succeeded if anything RESEMBLING decent institutions existed and/or any government that wasn't utter kleptocracy.
    Italy had a threat of communists after WW2, but luckily(?) the CIA could afford to buy the elections.

    You can't "tax back" when the methods of offshoring money is easier than ever. Americans have a wonderful / imbecilic belief that they too will be successful in the near future and continue to strive to do so.

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    Excerpts from the next big Trump book:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-michael-wolff

    The meeting was revealed by the New York Times in July last year, prompting Trump Jr to say no consequential material was produced. Soon after, Wolff writes, [Steve] Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

    “Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

    Bannon went on, Wolff writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”.
    “You realise where this is going,” he is quoted as saying. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose [senior prosecutor Andrew] Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy. Their path to fucking Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr and Jared Kushner … It’s as plain as a hair on your face.”

    Last month it was reported that federal prosecutors had subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank, the German financial institution that has lent hundreds of millions of dollars to the Kushner property empire. Bannon continues: “It goes through Deutsche Bank and all the Kushner shit. The Kushner shit is greasy. They’re going to go right through that. They’re going to roll those two guys up and say play me or trade me.”

    Scorning apparent White House insouciance, Bannon reaches for a hurricane metaphor: “They’re sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category Five.”
    Don't know whether to take this as funny or scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    ...Don't know whether to take this as funny or scary.
    Both. Definitely both.

    Of course, I have always found gallows humor entertaining....
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    The new book at the least seems to show that Bannon thinks the Trump presidency is sunk and he wants to be seen as the guy who could have saved MAGA (make america great again) but was pushed aside by Don Jr, Kushner, and Ivanka.

    Here's the Trump website Inaugural Year Approval Poll:
    https://action.donaldjtrump.com/inau...approval-poll/
    1. How would you rate President Trump’s first year in office (2017)?
    Great
    Good
    Okay
    Other
    2. How would you rate President Obama’s first year in office (2009)?
    Great
    Good
    Okay
    Poor
    Other
    3. Do you believe the Fake News Media will fairly cover President Trump’s first year approval rating?
    Yes
    No
    Other
    4. Are there any other thoughts you’d like to share with the team? (Optional)

    And here is their Presidential Approval Poll:
    https://action.donaldjtrump.com/pres...oval-poll-nov/
    1. How would you rate President Trump’s job in office so far?
    Great
    Good
    Okay
    Other, please specify:

    2. (Optional) Do you have any feedback to add?
    You can't submit your entry without entering you last name, email and zip code though. Not a lot of options or angles they are looking at though. The options don't allow my more negative opinion which I guess will be classified as Other. Funny that the poll question for Obama's first year has 'poor' as an option but not for Trump's first year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Don't know whether to take this as funny or scary.
    Hilarious, especially when he calls his own (former?) news outlet less legitimate than others.


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    The Trump team are beginning to look like a ship, stuck in the ice.
    The alternative to gracefully shedding this mortal coil, is to eat your own.
    Bannon goes "buffet style" - with extra helpings of Jared:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...kushner-216166

    I do hope for a Congressional Committee report about all this some day
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