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    Default Re: PESCO EU Defense Pact

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    And as Libya in 2011 showed, sometimes a European country (like Germany) will elect to do nothing even when the cause is deemed just and the operation is given the green light by the UNSC. Germany is one of the classic cases of "decent capability, lack of will."



    These are definitely very true points as to why my idea likely wouldnt work, and why I said it was a pipe dream at best. Ideally, since the command language of NATO is English anyways, everyone should just speak English, but thats just me being a haughty and self-centered American.
    Still remembering the visit of my relatives (who speak american english with a dialect from the palatinate) I wonder what has being american to do with speaking proper english...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
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    And my point about Libya wasn't that Germany was horrible for not participating, it was a real life example of EU/NATO members disagreeing about foreign policy, making my idea of one large European army useless. Kinda risky to have an army like that if a large chunk of it won't deploy in the first place.
    Defense Pact. Military action in Lybia was outside EU borders and every sovereign state could decide itself to stay on the side of right and justice and respect the sovereignity of Lybia (and protect the interestes of the EU as Ghadaffi had a deal with the EU to prevent refugees in the med) or ignore them and support the tribal rebels that noone wanted to realize as being a worse replacement for Ghadaffi. Now Lybia has 3 dictators and is barely able to control it’s own coast...

    Reacting to a threat to the borders of an EU-member would look quite different and trigger a more united response, I think.
    Last edited by ConjurerDragon; 01-02-2018 at 17:50.

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