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    Default Re: Why is There Death and Suffering if God is all Loving

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    But than how is god being forgiving and jealous a contradiction?
    If you forgive everyone for everything you can't feel jealous.

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    hmmm, not sure which you are referring to.
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    In fact, God has done a lot already to solve the problem of evil, and He has promised to do more in the future.
    And my remark:

    Sounds too much like an election agenda.
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    If you forgive everyone for everything you can't feel jealous.



    Taken from your post:


    And my remark:

    Sounds too much like an election agenda.
    God does not just forgive everything. He offers forgiveness to those who accept jesus sacrifice on the cross and repent. God is even jealous of people who are his own such as the case with ancient isreal who than went astray because his love for them did not stop. Just as a husband would be jealous of an adulterous wife, even if he was willing to forgive if she stopped, his love still drives the jealousy. There is difference between condoning an act and forgiving a moral violation out of love and gods nature.


    Perhaps it is. God did so much for us vote for him, accept his son and have the gift of eternal life. He alone is the rightful king.

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    But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
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    But I was speaking more to what he did do in the past, such as die on the cross.
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    Default Re: Why is There Death and Suffering if God is all Loving

    You should stop using the bible as a source, the people you adress (including me) do not see it as a source. The question is interesting enough without it, what do you think yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    You should stop using the bible as a source, the people you adress (including me) do not see it as a source. The question is interesting enough without it, what do you think yourself
    I think you have misunderstood the nature of my op. It has nothing to do with showing the bible true. It responds to a common objection people have [such as i had when i was agnostic/atheist] that how come their is death and suffering if god is all loving. This seemed an inconstancy with a god of love. How could i worship a god who created an imperfect world? isent this an imperfect god than? wouldent this disprove the bible? to this thread is on an internal inconstancy with the bible not a proof of the bible as gods word. Now if someone such as yourself thought for yourself and read the op, I would assume they would have figured that out. As someone who if a former atheist but than learned to think for myself, i have concluded


    “Its been said that when human beings stop believing in god they believe in nothing. The truth is much worse, they believe in anything.” Malcolm maggeridge


    if you want to start a thread on why some vague unknowable deist god of the universe allows for evil, than go ahead and start one. Asking why is their death and suffering and avoiding what the creators word [the bible] says on the subject is irrational and so i could not start such a thread, my apologies.
    “Its been said that when human beings stop believing in god they believe in nothing. The truth is much worse, they believe in anything.” Malcolm maggeridge

    The simple believes every word: but the prudent man looks well to his going. Proverbs -14.15
    The first to present his case seems right,till another comes forward and questions him -Proverbs 18.17

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    Genesis 1.1

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