SYRIA thread

[Gilrandir]

https://www.google.com/search?q=m17+...AD12-3C7Vi4QM:

That is exit damage. The investigation-report comes from Kiev, of whoś all radars 'had maintanance'. In a war.

You are an expert on modern missiles and damage they cause and in the veracity of random photos one can find in the internet?

But even if we, for a second, believe (in spite of JIT report and other investigations) that it is exit damage, how does it prove that Ukraine is to blame? If there was exit damage then it would clearly indicate that something blew up INSIDE the cockpit - which would mean that there was explosive on the plane. And why would Ukrainians shoot at flying objects when separatists never (before the accident or after) had any air forces?

[Sarmatian]

It doesn't matter who did. Yes, theoretically, both sides could have done it to blame it on the other side. That carries huge risks, though, and I'm not convinced either would accept those risks, simple as that.

There was nothing to gain, militarily or politically, from shooting the plane down.

So, the most reasonable conclusion is that it was a mistake, probably by the pro-Russian forces.

Don't see how it is relevant for this discussion, though.

[Fragony]

You are an expert on modern missiles and damage they cause and in the veracity of random photos one can find in the internet?

But even if we, for a second, believe (in spite of JIT report and other investigations) that it is exit damage, how does it prove that Ukraine is to blame? If there was exit damage then it would clearly indicate that something blew up INSIDE the cockpit - which would mean that there was explosive on the plane. And why would Ukrainians shoot at flying objects when separatists never (before the accident or after) had any air forces?

Because it was simply not intentional, and the political stakes were high at the moment