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    Default Re: Do Catholics and Protestants Differ on Justification?

    The Nicene Creed is currently rendered as follows during the Mass (English vernacular; phrasings differ slightly with each language):

    I believe in one God,
    the Father almighty,
    maker of heaven and earth,
    of all things visible and invisible.
    I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
    the Only Begotten Son of God,
    born of the Father before all ages.
    God from God, Light from Light,
    true God from true God,
    begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
    through him all things were made.
    For us men and for our salvation
    he came down from heaven,
    and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
    and became man.
    For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
    he suffered death and was buried,
    and rose again on the third day
    in accordance with the Scriptures.
    He ascended into heaven
    and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
    He will come again in glory
    to judge the living and the dead
    and his kingdom will have no end.
    I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
    who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
    who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
    who has spoken through the prophets.
    I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
    I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
    and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
    and the life of the world to come. Amen.


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    A number of the prayers you quote are actually rendered by you in an older literary style, sometimes using phrasings that are Pre Vatican-II. I recommend the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops website to you for the currently recommended phrasings. We went through a number of changes to the specific text of the mass and other prayers within the last six years so as to make the translations clearer and to render the message of these prayers etc. more....pardon the pun....faithfully.


    Despite the differences you note in your discussion -- and your are correct that many of the 'disputes' are more about form than substance -- we pray regularly that we will all someday 'worship at the same table.'
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken

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