Biblical Creation vs Evolution- the age of the Earth

[Gilrandir]

No I was raised catholic [i am not] and through school an evolutionist. They never mentioned creation vs evolution and cant understand why so many young people leave the church, "just preach the gospel" of course this is just what the liberals want.

So? You just changed ranks and files within which you march. But in your defense: everybody of us marches within some rank, only they don't like to admit it.

Belief.

conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence belief in the validity of scientific statements

"truth" and "reality" are not about religion. The latter is about faith. And pay attention to the bolded example.

Indeed science has moved forward because of christian men with a christian worldview. And as i showed, science would make no sense if evolution were true, it would not be possible. By the way, do you know who invented Dr Raymond Damadian, the inventor of the MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) scanner was a creationist.

So? How can it corroborate your claim that I can't see my brain?

Here is a list i found online of all the biblical references to who he appeared to including the 500.
http://factsandfaith.com/the-witness...s-crucifixion/

Looked through the list. Dicovered that those who saw Jesus after death mentioned by apostles (the eyewitnesses) are in fact apostles themselves + a dozen of women = all in all not exceeding, say twenty/thirty people. The only ones described in the Gospel. All the rest are reported by the self-styled apostle Paul who didn't know Jesus when he was alive. I have an impression that he was a rather scandalous person evicted from many cities.

I would rather you read my thread to correct your false analogies/assumptions/history [its all in their] and you can post anything on that thread related.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...e-Inquisitions

For you all unpleasant analogies/history are false.

As for the catholic church, I never said it never did wrong, i am not catholic.

Nice! First you protect it (namely Crusades), speak about generousity of Popes (Urban VIII and Galilei) and when the position on some invidious issues in untenable you weasel out saying that CATHOLOC church is not your cup of tea.

And speaking of Galilei. All goodwill Urban showed to him and of which you are so enamoured happened BEFORE Galilei displeased Urban with his writings and scientific findings, so Urban actually sanctioned what was done to Galilei years later.

I am a biblical creationist I believe everything was created to reproduce after its own kind, dogs produce dogs, cats produce cats etc There is alot of variety in these animals so that a dog, coyote, and wolf have a common ancestor, but it was from the original dog kind, they have know varied and produce the many kinds today. But all the information was already present the variation we see in animals today was already present in the original producing kind.

How come modern animals are not found as old fossils? Why not admit that species can evolve being once created?

[total relism]

So? You just changed ranks and files within which you march. But in your defense: everybody of us marches within some rank, only they don't like to admit it.



"truth" and "reality" are not about religion. The latter is about faith. And pay attention to the bolded example.


So? How can it corroborate your claim that I can't see my brain?




Looked through the list. Dicovered that those who saw Jesus after death mentioned by apostles (the eyewitnesses) are in fact apostles themselves + a dozen of women = all in all not exceeding, say twenty/thirty people. The only ones described in the Gospel. All the rest are reported by the self-styled apostle Paul who didn't know Jesus when he was alive. I have an impression that he was a rather scandalous person evicted from many cities.



For you all unpleasant analogies/history are false.



Nice! First you protect it (namely Crusades), speak about generousity of Popes (Urban VIII and Galilei) and when the position on some invidious issues in untenable you weasel out saying that CATHOLOC church is not your cup of tea.

And speaking of Galilei. All goodwill Urban showed to him and of which you are so enamoured happened BEFORE Galilei displeased Urban with his writings and scientific findings, so Urban actually sanctioned what was done to Galilei years later.





How come modern animals are not found as old fossils? Why not admit that species can evolve being once created?

you could look at it that way. There is nobody i fully agree with or march with. But i see it as others followed a different path [maybe very close] and ended up at the same or similar place. So i think many independent thinking people agree 2 plus 2 is 4.



Right, I believe science is true, therefore evolution cannot be.


or the 500 who saw him.



glad we have that settled.



i defend what is true rather than believe lies of the church and defend what i think is good of the church like the crusades.


Modern animals are found in "young layers" plus your question is based on circular reasoning assuming the layers. See under age of earth and fossils/geological column. Further no many modern "species" would not be found as they have come about recently, but many of the the kinds are found. Their is a certain amount of change that has happened in every kind of animal [not upward complexity change]. See under biblical creation and natural selection, speciation and mutations. 79% of living families have been found so far in column 87.7% of birds 97.7% of living orders of land vertebrates are represented in fossil record 79.1% of living family land vertebrates.

[Gilrandir]

or the 500 who saw him.

A thousand times five hundred saw Copperfield walk through the Great Wall of China. Does it make the walk a real event?

Further no many modern "species" would not be found as they have come about recently

So since the Universe is about 7000 years old modern animals are about that age?

[total relism]

A thousand times five hundred saw Copperfield walk through the Great Wall of China. Does it make the walk a real event?




So since the Universe is about 7000 years old modern animals are about that age?

? no animal is more than 10,000.

[Elmetiacos]

By the way "Malcolm maggeridge" in your sig should be Malcolm_Muggeridge and he didn't originate the saying: it's usually attributed to G K Chesterton The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything, but it was probably his biographer Emile Cammaerts who actually originated it.

[total relism]

By the way "Malcolm maggeridge" in your sig should be Malcolm_Muggeridge and he didn't originate the saying: it's usually attributed to G K Chesterton The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything, but it was probably his biographer Emile Cammaerts who actually originated it.

Thanks for the correction. Both great men of God.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

? no animal is more than 10,000.

There are days I feel older...

[Fragony]

Reading a fun book 'Sapiens a history of Mankind' by Yuval Noah Hariri, bssicly a summary of just about everything. addresses almost everything talked about here, great for if you want to look smart with minimal effort

[Gilrandir]

So it says, my mistake. Some of your posts are of a length approaching spamdom Old Testament

? no animal is more than 10,000.

I mean species. Even mammoths and dinosaurs?

[total relism]

I mean species. Even mammoths and dinosaurs?

species have developed at various times through history.

[Pannonian]

species have developed at various times through history.

Hang on. Are you admitting to heretical thoughts of evolution?