Conservatives are taking this as a big win. Sad. Did we even get anything down on paper?
Re: Future of the European Union
Conservatives are taking this as a big win. Sad. Did we even get anything down on paper?
Re: Future of the European Union
EU/Germany's main goal to avoid tariffs on auto and industrial goods.
Someone verify this for me: Trump admin made a similar set of aspirational "deals" with China ~April, but these haven't been followed up on and instead escalating rounds of sanctions have been exchanged. Now Trump is threatening to sanction all US-China trade.Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
Am I right?
What it looks like to me is, Trump wants to foist American exports - such as exist - onto the world while sharply curtailing the permeability of America to imports from the world. Very free trade. Much fool.
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Re: Future of the European Union
To me this sounds a bit like the attempt to force-feed us Europeans with more HFCS and trans-fats...
I don't really care how unfair it is that our products are better/subsidized, I don't want to buy your canned cancer either way.
If they flood the market with cheap, unhealthy food, it might still become the only thing our supermarkets offer, at least in the price range affordable for most.
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Nonsense. We're more than happy to let you appease our corn farmers by buying tanker loads of ethanol to add to your gasoline instead. As long as our agro lobby is happy, it need not by HFCS.To me this sounds a bit like the attempt to force-feed us Europeans with more HFCS and trans-fats...
I don't really care how unfair it is that our products are better/subsidized, I don't want to buy your canned cancer either way.
If they flood the market with cheap, unhealthy food, it might still become the only thing our supermarkets offer, at least in the price range affordable for most.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
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Kinda wary as well, going to stick with made in the Netherlands, soy and corn-syrup isn't necessarily bad for you but this isn't something to cheer for
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Remain - I just want tomorrow to looks roughly the same as today:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...overeign-power
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That's basically the idea the EU should be (and was to some extent) following anyway.
Remember how the people in the 13 colonies didn't want to unite and the politicians did it anyway? The number of people complaining today is relatively small, especially when it comes to comparisons to other nations, the relative power, etc.
If it's better to be a big bully nation than a small victim one, why shouldn't I want to be just that? Competition is the game! It's only natural.
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