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    Dinosaur means 'terrible lizard" and was not used until the 1800's. They were land air breathing dwellers so they fall under the category of animals on the ark.


    And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the ark to keep them alive with you. They shall be male and female. 20 Of the birds according to their kinds, and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground,...And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the ark to keep them alive with you. They shall be male and female. 20 Of the birds according to their kinds, and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground,
    Yes, note how that totally includes most insects.


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    Yes, note how that totally includes most insects.
    “For the life [Hebrew: nep̄eš] of the flesh is in the blood [Hebrew: dām]” (Leviticus 17:11, 14; cf. Genesis 9:4; Deuteronomy 12:23). Insects do not have blood;

    in which is the breath of life,” (Hebrew: ’ăšer-bô rûaḥ ḥayyîm; Genesis 7:15, 22; cf. Job 7:7). Like bāśār, this additional phrase is never conclusively used of invertebrates. Additionally, in Genesis 7:22 the statement is made that “all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died.” The Hebrew word ’ap̄ refers literally to the nose or nostrils. Insects do not have nostrils (or lungs), and do not intake air the same way as most other land animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    “For the life [Hebrew: nep̄eš] of the flesh is in the blood [Hebrew: dām]” (Leviticus 17:11, 14; cf. Genesis 9:4; Deuteronomy 12:23). Insects do not have blood;

    in which is the breath of life,” (Hebrew: ’ăšer-bô rûaḥ ḥayyîm; Genesis 7:15, 22; cf. Job 7:7). Like bāśār, this additional phrase is never conclusively used of invertebrates. Additionally, in Genesis 7:22 the statement is made that “all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died.” The Hebrew word ’ap̄ refers literally to the nose or nostrils. Insects do not have nostrils (or lungs), and do not intake air the same way as most other land animals.
    So why aren't they dead then?


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    So why aren't they dead then?

    Some do argue insects were on the ark [still plenty of room] some argue some insects, if not as a category, were taken as pollinator, composted, plant caretakers, as food or came along for the ride on various animals. However while the flood was a year long, the whole earth was not covered a that long an the tallest trees [where insects could avoid the flood] could have been covered only weeks in some places.

    https://www.howitworksdaily.com/white-water-rapids/


    but where they most likely survived was on the vast vegetation mats that would [and are] produced by massive floods.


    Start under Mats could last decades
    https://creation.com/post-flood-log-...imal-migration
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    So insects survived on floating stuff but there wasn't a single other human with a boat to survive on?


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    So insects survived on floating stuff but there wasn't a single other human with a boat to survive on?
    Too busy in our pre-diluvian iniquities too worry about personal safety no doubt.
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    So insects survived on floating stuff but there wasn't a single other human with a boat to survive on?
    In those conditions would you agree insects can survive much better? they could have avoided the effects of the flood much longer and humans need food. How would we eat after the first few months assuming we could stay on the giant rafts we are much bigger. Not sure we could find enough fresh water either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    In those conditions would you agree insects can survive much better? they could have avoided the effects of the flood much longer and humans need food. How would we eat after the first few months assuming we could stay on the giant rafts we are much bigger. Not sure we could find enough fresh water either.
    Insects need both food and fresh water as well. Plenty of them would get eaten by the others on those rafts. By far not all insects alive today are predators though. Some of them would also need nests for their offspring since they die in winter, etc.
    https://www.reference.com/pets-anima...d1cae68812af2#

    You can't just expect them to sit on a floating branch for weeks and wait.


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