Trump Thread

[rory_20_uk]

What on earth does Ethics have with politics in the USA? Equally, public defiance is brutally put down in the USA. Neither will work - you're currently incarcerating children, arguing whether gerrymandering is OK at state level and not to mention pardoning a sheriff who was guilty of in essence being a racist. Police shooting minorities... the list just trudges on.

The White Would find people to do the work. There are always people to do ethically dubious things (look at all the things the USA is currently doing...) and this is no different. And the new lot might want a trade war with China / to nuke North Korea / abolish NATO. Or just not care.

The White House will start to even more closely resemble Game of Thrones with intrigue and this will take up a lot of effort. Many more things will get forgotten since this issue is a lot more important than the boring bits of running a country.

People knew what Donald was. Many think he's a way to get the Judges they want for the next few decades, as well as the tax cuts. That is the "win". And everything else he says has to be blocked, which will be achieved in part by this.

If you're wrestling in a sewer, no one is going to come out smelling of roses.

[Gilrandir]

What to do when Trump tweets: an instruction

https://www.facebook.com/wapodeptofs...7945655365405/

[Strike For The South]

That article should be soon for what it is, pre-emptive rehabilitation. They want to come back in 2020 saying "wow he was crazy, wasn't he" while we have no healthcare, no roads, and an even bigger incarceration machine. The GOP should be seen for what it is, a reactionary foundation that holds up what is essentially a Russian style oligarchy. They are going to keep pushing fear until everything is monetized and the mass of humanity below them can't complain because they are worked to the bone. Trump is merely the culture wars proverbial Id.

There is no reason to vote for anyone with an R next to their name if you value a cohesive society.

[a completely inoffensive name]

That article should be soon for what it is, pre-emptive rehabilitation. They want to come back in 2020 saying "wow he was crazy, wasn't he" while we have no healthcare, no roads, and an even bigger incarceration machine. The GOP should be seen for what it is, a reactionary foundation that holds up what is essentially a Russian style oligarchy. They are going to keep pushing fear until everything is monetized and the mass of humanity below them can't complain because they are worked to the bone. Trump is merely the culture wars proverbial Id.

There is no reason to vote for anyone with an R next to their name if you value a cohesive society.

Agreed. And if you were ever curious on how they plan to maintain this vision of america, look up the Liberty Amendments.

[Montmorency]

What on earth does Ethics have with politics in the USA? Equally, public defiance is brutally put down in the USA. Neither will work - you're currently incarcerating children, arguing whether gerrymandering is OK at state level and not to mention pardoning a sheriff who was guilty of in essence being a racist. Police shooting minorities... the list just trudges on.

The White Would find people to do the work. There are always people to do ethically dubious things (look at all the things the USA is currently doing...) and this is no different. And the new lot might want a trade war with China / to nuke North Korea / abolish NATO. Or just not care.

The White House will start to even more closely resemble Game of Thrones with intrigue and this will take up a lot of effort. Many more things will get forgotten since this issue is a lot more important than the boring bits of running a country.

People knew what Donald was. Many think he's a way to get the Judges they want for the next few decades, as well as the tax cuts. That is the "win". And everything else he says has to be blocked, which will be achieved in part by this.

If you're wrestling in a sewer, no one is going to come out smelling of roses.

Good points on American malfeasance, but we're not quite in banana republic territory yet, so a mass resignation of Washington yuppies and well-connected millionaires/billionaires would not be "brutally put down". That's the stage for the legendary "Second Amendment solution".

Let's put it this way: Stephen Miller is essentially a Trump loyalist in that he is a full fascist who wants to implement ethnic cleansing and won't let go no matter what. What would happen if all the party/establishment loyalists were replaced with more Millers?

I'm telling you there would not be much difference. Only a veneer of respectability separates the Millers and the Kellys. Sessions, with respect to immigration and drugs and law enforcement, has always been more a Miller. I don't see that the White House would suddenly be able to do more damage than it has already been doing either. A harmful edict does not have to be "competently" put together or implemented to damage many lives. We've seen it time and again.

Moreover there are more Kellys than Millers out there, and most of the Kellys don't want to be anywhere near the White House, all the less with a public stand on the record. Again, hence why the White House has never managed to fill so many hundreds of positions. Clearly there are not always people available. And many positions would have to be filled with Congressional approval, which will become more difficult to secure the more naked the antagonism. Especially Cabinet roles.


Can we agree on one thing, that everyone "wresting in [the] sewer" would best be sealed in there permanently?

The only one I'm unsure about yet is Mattis, but time will tell his story.