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    So immigrants costing more than they pay in taxes is the foundation of the problem? What would you say if there is plentiful evidence that immigrants pay more in taxes than they take out in state provided services?
    lol they cost 8 billion a year, and that is just in the Neds, what do we get back, nothing. Crime and disrespect. Not say that there is no silver lining some are great, but a lot are not. It angers me that christians and gays have to be scared here, it angers me that women feel unsafe, it angers me that shopkeepers feel unsafe, fuck it all, poor guests. The ones I want here I have enough fingers to count them on, and welcome they are they can use a room, use my bathroom, no pay required as long as I like you. Social code is broken, the Dutch code is to live and let live
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    lol they cost 8 billion a year, and that is just in the Neds, what do we get back, nothing. Crime and disrespect. Not say that there is no silver lining some are great, but a lot are not. It angers me that christians and gays have to be scared here, it angers me that women feel unsafe, it angers me that shopkeepers feel unsafe, fuck it all, poor guests. The ones I want here I have enough fingers to count them on, and welcome they are they can use a room, use my bathroom, no pay required as long as I like you. Social code is broken, the Dutch code is to live and let live
    If there is evidence from respected institutions that immigrants pay much more taxes than they cost in state services, would you be in favour of them? I'm asking you this question. Don't deflect by saying that they cost a lot and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    If there is evidence from respected institutions that immigrants pay much more taxes than they cost in state services, would you be in favour of them? I'm asking you this question. Don't deflect by saying that they cost a lot and so on.
    Yes there are, 80 bllion so far and counting. That is just the Netherlands. It is just dumb. We owe them abdolutily nothing. and as a thanks women get raped. I like women, I want to love them not rape them.
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    Yes there are, 80 bllion so far and counting. That is just the Netherlands. It is just dumb.
    I'll ask again: if there is plentiful, indisputable evidence that a group of immigrants pays much more in taxes than they cost in state services, and they do not appreciably cause more problems than other immigrants groups, would you be in favour of them? You're probably talking about another group than I'm referring to. Read my question rather than answer the question of your choosing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    I'll ask again: if there is plentiful, indisputable evidence that a group of immigrants pays much more in taxes than they cost in state services, and they do not appreciably cause more problems than other immigrants groups, would you be in favour of them? You're probably talking about another group than I'm referring to. Read my question rather than answer the question of your choosing.
    I suppose, if you put it like that yes

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    I suppose, if you put it like that yes
    So what do you think of immigration to the UK from within the EU? The relevant government departments say that these intra-EU immigrants pay several billion more in taxes than they take out, various job markets rely heavily on them as UK-born people don't tend to take these jobs (eg. social care), and they don't tend to cause more problems than your average immigrant group. Would it be a good idea to encourage this group, and a bad idea to block it?

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    So what do you think of immigration to the UK from within the EU? The relevant government departments say that these intra-EU immigrants pay several billion more in taxes than they take out, various job markets rely heavily on them as UK-born people don't tend to take these jobs (eg. social care), and they don't tend to cause more problems than your average immigrant group. Would it be a good idea to encourage this group, and a bad idea to block it?
    Why should I have any problems with that, and why do you make it an issue

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