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    They won't immediately shut down all operations, as there is still physical and human infrastructure here for existing models. . What they will do is what they've done: move production of new models to elsewhere. As existing models come to the end of their life, there won't be any replacements, as all the new infrastructure has been set up in places where they won't suffer from the UK's post-Brexit situation. May had a meeting with Nissan execs shortly after she took power, assuring them that the UK would be a good place to continue business in. They've obviously weighed her words against her actions, and found her words to be worthless.
    Or perhaps it has something to do with the massive drop in Diesel sales in Europe due to the scandal in Germany due to extremely lax QC. Or perhaps the new free trade agreement with the UK - this means they will get tariff-free on cars even if they're made in Japan (one of the inevitable casualties of free trade agreements which are better overall but do create some loosers).

    But no. Nissan doesn't like May and therefore is moving. If they'd liked the PM they'd be building a whole new town here since personal relationships really matter that much...

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    Or perhaps it has something to do with the massive drop in Diesel sales in Europe due to the scandal in Germany due to extremely lax QC. Or perhaps the new free trade agreement with the UK - this means they will get tariff-free on cars even if they're made in Japan (one of the inevitable casualties of free trade agreements which are better overall but do create some loosers).

    But no. Nissan doesn't like May and therefore is moving. If they'd liked the PM they'd be building a whole new town here since personal relationships really matter that much...

    What new free trade agreement with the UK are you talking about? Have you been smoking Liam Fox's stash again? The new free trade agreement Japan recently signed that we benefit from was with the EU, which we are currently a member of. We will stop benefiting from that agreement on 1st April, courtesy of your vote.

    Brexit: Government didn't offer Nissan money to stay in UK (20th January 2017)
    Nissan was offered secret state aid to cope with Brexit, minister concedes (4th February 2019)

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    What new free trade agreement with the UK are you talking about? Have you been smoking Liam Fox's stash again? The new free trade agreement Japan recently signed that we benefit from was with the EU, which we are currently a member of. We will stop benefiting from that agreement on 1st April, courtesy of your vote.

    Brexit: Government didn't offer Nissan money to stay in UK (20th January 2017)
    Nissan was offered secret state aid to cope with Brexit, minister concedes (4th February 2019)

    Lies and deception - that's the Brexit way.
    Politicians lying??!? Say it ain't so! Something that only done by the Brexiteers, eh?

    Apologies, the EU, not the UK.

    My mistake aside... you appear to ignore both the decrease of diesel and that the agreement reduces tarrifs... so Nissan might as well build them in Japan. So this is in fact due to the EU/Japan agreement.

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    So, fours dsys later and i can no longer contain my amazement that the topic isn't fizzing with reaction to Jupiters encyclical on the future of the eu.

    does nobody care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    So, fours dsys later and i can no longer contain my amazement that the topic isn't fizzing with reaction to Jupiters encyclical on the future of the eu.

    does nobody care?
    I have some questions:

    1. Who are the Jupiters?
    2. Is encyclical an adjective, a verb or a noun and how is it related to cycling or cycles?
    3. Why can I not find any recent articles about the EU when I use your words as search terms? All I get are space missions, completely unrelated stuff and one article about Macron not being a Jupiter from 2017.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I have some questions:

    1. Who are the Jupiters?
    2. Is encyclical an adjective, a verb or a noun and how is it related to cycling or cycles?
    3. Why can I not find any recent articles about the EU when I use your words as search terms? All I get are space missions, completely unrelated stuff and one article about Macron not being a Jupiter from 2017.
    If you can't find anything then nobody does care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I have some questions:

    1. Who are the Jupiters?
    2. Is encyclical an adjective, a verb or a noun and how is it related to cycling or cycles?
    3. Why can I not find any recent articles about the EU when I use your words as search terms? All I get are space missions, completely unrelated stuff and one article about Macron not being a Jupiter from 2017.
    Niche terms are usually understood by insiders in Facebook (or other social media) circles. The Leave campaign used phishing to get user data, which they then used for targeted ad campaigns on Facebook primarily disseminating untruths. When a Parliamentary committee asked the director of this campaign for information on what they'd been telling people, he refused. The committee published some of these ads, but not having been in these circles, they do not have a full list.

    Jupiter is probably a nickname used by said circle to refer to some individual or other. Encyclical might be their term for a circular letter; rarely seen in the normal world, but when the leader in one of these circles uses it, it becomes current among the members of that circle. So for Furunculus, those words immediately mean something to him, but to us outsiders, these words might as well be gobbledigook.

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