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    Default Re: A change in British politics... or a blip?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    Just curious, what's the basis for the allegations that the Labour party is anti-Semetic?
    my own thought is that the problem derives from the neoprogressive view that all relations must be understood through power and oppression of identity groups:
    there is no room for any alternative motivation when looking at how one group relates to another, not affection, affinity, self interest, just power and oppression.
    power held by one group, used to oppress another.

    derida has a lot to answer for, as even though 90% of the identitarian left have never heard of him he has poisoned their view of the world.
    and of course we now have the alt-right who choose to see world through the same distorted prism, with themselves as the unjustly 'oppressed'.

    back to israel:
    it has a problem, they are deemed to have power in the mythology of the left (the protocols of the elders of zion), and there is a group they are intimately associated with who are considered to be more oppressed (those poor old palestinians).
    when you view the world solely through identity politics then it is impossible for israel and israeli's to present as anything more than an exploitative oppressor.

    when i describe myself as a classical liberal, this above is the antithesis of that view:
    I couldn't give a flying buck about [your] group identity, how oppressed it is, or how concerned you are about the legitimacy of your grievance against your notional oppressor.
    I care about people, not groups, and my prime political motivation is that people are treated decently, with justice and equity.
    but that is not the reality that the identitarian left and right exist within.

    that CPG Gray vid suffers from a similar problem; an obsession with group identity. of course there is no way i would vote for a black man, or a woman, or a disabled person! irony alert.

    this being a great example:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tizenship.html
    our John is totally justified in believing that a brit fighting for israel deserves removal of citizenship, where he is at worst indifferent to the plight of shamima the headhacker bride. power and oppression.

    and another:
    https://twitter.com/PureGodfrey/stat...40636177649664
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