Hey guys remember when I was like "Putin is a fascist" and yall were all like "no this is just geo politics"
Re: UKRAINE thread
Hey guys remember when I was like "Putin is a fascist" and yall were all like "no this is just geo politics"
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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Putin's been steadily working at rebuilding the Russian Empire.Originally Posted by Strike For The South
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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Putin pushes his game ever further:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1S01LU
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Now we have the names.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-a...wning-of-mh17/
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Russia is returning to PACE.
http://euromaidanpress.com/2019/06/1...-european-law/
Europe is on its way to business as usual with Putin.
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Sanctions seldom work, leaving Europe with a choice between treating all of Russia like a pariah state a la SA in the 1970s, launching a war to take back Ukraine, and going back to business as usual. You are enough of a realist to see what happens.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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Not sanctions, but THE sanctions. The sanctions introduced against Russia.
Complaining that sanctions don't work is like complaining the treatment doesn't work. In spite of what the doctor prescribed, you take just one pill a week and expect the disease to abate. Probably, you should take two pills a day, than you can see whether the treatment works.
As for returning Russia to PACE, it was denied the right to speech (after which it left the premises and stopped payments into PACE's budget) as a response to aggression in Crimea and Donbas. Has anything changed? Has Crimea been returned to where it belongs? Have the Russians withdrawn from Donbas? No, moreover, Russia's guilt in shooting down MH17 has been proved, Russia ignores resloution of the same PACE to release Ukrainian sailors captured in November 2018. What is PACE's reaction? Let Russia appear in the assembly hall (and get the money back). I applaud the integrity and consistency of Europeans. Especially the Dutch, who lost 200 people in the plane crash.
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