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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    As is so often the case, they tend to be rather "solution-lite". Yes, there's little in their goals I disagree with but beyond some plain chant whining and saying everything is unfair and needs to be fixed... there's little substance.

    Just like Brexit. What's Leave's manifesto? Will Leavers take responsibility for the consequences of leaving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Just like Brexit. What's Leave's manifesto? Will Leavers take responsibility for the consequences of leaving?
    Sadly my future was destroyed before I could vote when we were taken into Europe without the People bieng asked.

    Remainers seem to continue to shirk their role on bieng the root cause and continue to want to waste time better spent trying to undo the damage they have done for over 30 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Sadly my future was destroyed before I could vote when we were taken into Europe without the People bieng asked.

    Remainers seem to continue to shirk their role on bieng the root cause and continue to want to waste time better spent trying to undo the damage they have done for over 30 years.

    Do you complain about being taken into NATO, Five Eyes, etc. without being asked either?

    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    Maybe when we actually leave?

    We have a whole thread for you to shiek about how terrible it is, it's honestly a bad sign you seem to be unable to compartmentalise.
    Are you now saying that Brexit is nothing to do with the European elections? Heck you have the far right in Denmark drawing back their anti-European agenda because they've seen what Brexit is like.

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    If you're going to act the jaded wise old head, apply your standards across the board. If you're mocking others for only having cliched non-concrete solutions to problems, apply your standards to your positions. If you're going to hold principled positions, accept the consequences of your positions.

    Me, I've applied the logic of my arguments to all positions I've held. Where they've made me uncomfortable, I've accepted the consequences nonetheless, or changed my position. But I've consistently applied my logic to my positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Do you complain about being taken into NATO, Five Eyes, etc. without being asked either?
    as has been pointed out to you a million times already:

    there is an enormous and fundamental difference between a strictly limited intergovernmental mutual defence treaty and an explicitly evolving supranational political union that touches an ever greater breadth of domestic societal governance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Are you now saying that Brexit is nothing to do with the European elections? Heck you have the far right in Denmark drawing back their anti-European agenda because they've seen what Brexit is like.
    Have you seen how well the Neo-Nazis did?

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    Romania voted strongly pro-EU, much better than expected in fact, which will have some significant impact in the European Union down the line.

    Due to the fact that most of the politicians elected are pro-EU, and with neither party clearly Euroskeptic / against EU, the Romanian bloc will carry quite some weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Just like Brexit. What's Leave's manifesto? Will Leavers take responsibility for the consequences of leaving?
    Maybe when we actually leave?

    We have a whole thread for you to shiek about how terrible it is, it's honestly a bad sign you seem to be unable to compartmentalise.
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    Conservatives are lining up to get appointed as head of the UK Super Villain Society.

    You look at the list and there is only despair with the choices on offer.
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    Are you seriously labelling the Conservative and Unionist Party the "UK Super Villain Society"?
    "If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Just like Brexit. What's Leave's manifesto? Will Leavers take responsibility for the consequences of leaving?
    please, just keep droning on about your own personal little obsession.
    we all appreciate it, we really do.
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