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    What can we say of a nation if a person like that will get elected again (as likely as not)?
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    What can we say of a nation if a person like that will get elected again (as likely as not)?
    Nothing without taking into context the electoral system of that nation.


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    Nothing without taking into context the electoral system of that nation.
    What can we say about a nation that has an electoral system that enables such a person to get elected?


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    the art or practice of pursuing a dangerous policy to the limits of safety before stopping, especially in politics.
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    Nothing without taking into context the electoral system of that nation.
    Then change it, for God's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    Then change it, for God's sake.
    Process already exists to change it. Most of the powers that be are happy with the current system.
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    Process already exists to change it. Most of the powers that be are happy with the current system.
    What abour rank and file? It is from them that the initiative should come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    What abour rank and file? It is from them that the initiative should come.
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    Difficult to 'grass roots' this. Proposed amendment must come from Congress on a 2/3 supermajority in both OR from a Convention called by 2/3 or the legislatures (the same percentage required to ratify). So sidestepping the party leadership is functionally undoable. Would require a 'sea change' level shift in the rank and file support that convinced the powers that be that they would be tossed out of office if they did not vote to amend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
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    Difficult to 'grass roots' this. Proposed amendment must come from Congress on a 2/3 supermajority in both OR from a Convention called by 2/3 or the legislatures (the same percentage required to ratify). So sidestepping the party leadership is functionally undoable. Would require a 'sea change' level shift in the rank and file support that convinced the powers that be that they would be tossed out of office if they did not vote to amend.
    Then you are doomed.
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