UK Politics Thread

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Prorogation of Parliament deemed "unlawful".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49810261

Boris Johnson tilts the delicate balance of our Constitution one way, the Supreme Court tilts it far over the other way.

[Pannonian]

Prorogation of Parliament deemed "unlawful".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49810261

Boris Johnson tilts the delicate balance of our Constitution one way, the Supreme Court tilts it far over the other way.

Prorogation of Parliament in order to deny Parliament a say in the most drastic constitutional period in living memory is unlawful. That the evidence indicates, indisputably, that the reason given by the executive is false, and that this act of prorogation was politically motivated. If you're going to report the news, report the reasoning given by the Supreme Court as well.

And one of the fundamental reasons for Brexit given by Brexiteers (I'm not allowed to specify posters any more) is that UK courts should not be subject to foreign-driven laws. This is the highest UK court defending the principle that the UK Parliament cannot be dissolved for political ends. As the ECJ did, it's ruled that the UK Parliament is sovereign. Not the UK executive.

11-0. And Man City thought they did well.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I understand the argument but this raises a crucial question:

Who has the right to prorogue Parliament if not the Queen on the advice of her ministers?

[a completely inoffensive name]

I understand the argument but this raises a crucial question:

Who has the right to prorogue Parliament if not the Queen on the advice of her ministers?

They still have that right, but can only use it for the right reasons. This is Abuse of Power 101. Just because Government can advise to prorouge doesnt mean they have the ability to exercise it to the nth degree, there are limitations. Dont pretend limitations equals no right otherwise you will start to lose my respect.

[Beskar]

I understand the argument but this raises a crucial question:

Who has the right to prorogue Parliament if not the Queen on the advice of her ministers?

The Queen has no power, she is bound to go with the 'recommendation' whatever it entails with a rubberstamp or it causes a constitutional crisis there as well. She is effectively held hostage by this. Therefore, it is the actual 'advice' offered by the prime minister under scrutiny and not the Queen.

In short, the UK has found tradition like in the USA, to be challenged and thrown out of the window by those who want to exploit it for their own ends: Boris and Trump and their legion of demagogues and backers.

There are also key sections to the ruling and what it entails. These are broken down here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49813309
It was delivered in such a precise way, that Boris has no comeback what so ever other than go "I disagree".