Ukraine Thread

[Gilrandir]

That seems a positive thing in itself given you're in the middle of a civil ware - despite which the country didn't elect a former general.

I thought that everybody realizes it is not a CIVIL war. The fact that there are Ukrainians across the frontline doesn't make it civil since it was started, is financed, supplied with weapons, ammo, fuel and regular army incursions at crucial moments by Russia. Moreover, Russia finances not only the combatants, but the civilians as well, the currency that is in circulation there is the Russian ruble and all leaders of the so called DNR and LNR were formerly Russian citizens and are now Russian stooges appointed and replaced at will from the Kremlin.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I thought that everybody realizes it is not a CIVIL war. The fact that there are Ukrainians across the frontline doesn't make it civil since it was started, is financed, supplied with weapons, ammo, fuel and regular army incursions at crucial moments by Russia. Moreover, Russia finances not only the combatants, but the civilians as well, the currency that is in circulation there is the Russian ruble and all leaders of the so called DNR and LNR were formerly Russian citizens and are now Russian stooges appointed and replaced at will from the Kremlin.

Of course our leadership cadres are aware of this. Some choose to believe the fig-leaf, others confront with words, none of our governments is willing to risk war with Russia to stop it. I have said that before and I have yet to see compelling evidence that that will change or that anything short of that will sway the Kremlin.

[Gilrandir]

Of course our leadership cadres are aware of this. Some choose to believe the fig-leaf, others confront with words, none of our governments is willing to risk war with Russia to stop it. I have said that before and I have yet to see compelling evidence that that will change or that anything short of that will sway the Kremlin.

I didn't mean authorities of any country, I meant people on these boards.

[Gilrandir]

JIT on MH17 acknowledges that Russian top officials are implicated (including Shoygu and Surkov). Now there is the final step to make: to own up to the fact that NO Russian official involved in the war in Donbas could take important decisions that were not approved by Putin.
https://www.politie.nl/themas/flight...rash-mh17.html

[Gilrandir]

On how civil the war in Ukraine was/is.
https://112.international/conflict-i...014-47203.html

[Gilrandir]

A good summary of what Zelensky has (not) achieved in relations with Russia for a year of his presidency.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...seYHeuJEkc4eKY

[Gilrandir]

A new Russian church celebrating victory in World War II.



Is is me or has Isengard come alive?