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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    God it's a pretty pathetic time for Democracy in the UK.

    "Being better than Corbyn" is possibly one of the most depressing slogans to have - but what else can the Tories offer?

    Maybe also "slightly less racist than Corbyn"?

    That's a pretty damning indictment of the Labour party right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    Maybe also "slightly less racist than Corbyn"?

    That's a pretty damning indictment of the Labour party right there.
    Its Jew / rich bashing or Muslim / poor bashing. It is reaching the playground in a primary school in terms of lack of nuance, data and "alternative facts". [Most] people are retreating into their own online social enclaves and hearing personal echo chambers. I've been unfriended / blocked on a few occasions for daring to challenge the data that was being quoted - not stating that the other side are great, but just to try to get people to argue on frankly reality as opposed to the conflicting fantasies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    I suggest making one more thread on Brexit and at least a couple of threads on Uk politics. There can never be too much of UK. Neither can there be enough of Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    Embarrassing, and apologies to Beskar. However, I would respectfully submit that when Beskar posted his thread the game was not actually afoot.
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    And Boris Johnson demonstrably lies about the key issue that this election has been called on, with his claims contradicting what his Brexit secretary has already said on the subject. Will any Brexiteers care? Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    And Boris Johnson demonstrably lies about the key issue that this election has been called on, with his claims contradicting what his Brexit secretary has already said on the subject. Will any Brexiteers care? Nope.
    What do you suggest those supporting Brexit do? Is there an alternative mechanism to complete Brexit?

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    What do you suggest those supporting Brexit do?
    Fuck off and die?
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    One thing that strikes me in all the talk about PMs is that everyone loses sight of the MPs. Parliament is where the action is, so one should take into account the MPs (party) that constitute a potential PM's power base.

    As far as I'm concerned, more Labour MPs has to be better than more Conservative MPs.

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Its Jew / rich bashing or Muslim / poor bashing. It is reaching the playground in a primary school in terms of lack of nuance, data and "alternative facts". [Most] people are retreating into their own online social enclaves and hearing personal echo chambers. I've been unfriended / blocked on a few occasions for daring to challenge the data that was being quoted - not stating that the other side are great, but just to try to get people to argue on frankly reality as opposed to the conflicting fantasies.

    You should spend more time doing that on the Org rather than social media. It's more productive, I promise.

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