04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'd tend to agree, but it might just me being overly cautious.

Csar, what are you thinking right now? Can you give me an overview of your headspace?

[merl1n]

early game insaner/el barto interactions are kinda weird, but insaner threatened to kill himself if pzelda was good yesterday so that's probably not something

[Csargo]

Csar, what are you thinking right now? Can you give me an overview of your headspace?

Feel like Egix or Choxorn should be lynched today. Choxorn's hard to read in my experience, and I don't know anything about Egix. I read Choxorn's iso yesterday and wasn't impressed I guess you'd say and what you've posted of Egix doesn't look good.

I'm not sure what to make of ladd at this point. I want to give them some amount of credit for putting the damning vote on zelda, but looking at the vote count at the end makes that hard for me. I wouldn't vote them anytime soon though.

Felt like merl1n was good on my initial read through, and haven't really seen anything to change my mind so far other than being off the two main wagons yesterday.

Don't know anything about Newyn and nothing has stood out to me about them so far.

I'm 90% certain Logic is town. I'm pretty alright with saying you, Zack, and Insaner are town.

I feel like Cuth is playing different from what I remember about their play, so it's up in the air.

I have no read on Dya, other than zelda vote is good.

Montmorency (Pzelda,)
4 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo, Monty)
5 PZelda (Insaner, Dya, GH, Fable, ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
3 Ladd (Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
2 Choxorn (Empoof, Newyn)

[Csargo]

I think Monty is town, but I'm always wary of him. So there's that.

[Montmorency]

Cool. I was a bit worried about Poof there too, so that'll remove some tinfoil.

Will look into vote movements, etc tomorrow probably.

I'm lock town!

But without knowing the differences in powers between Barto and Zelda, it's hard to read the wagons. Is there 1 mafia, 1 3P remaining? 2 Mafia? 1 Mafia? Mechanically alone, with a distribution like this the remaining scum(s) could be anywhere, including on the scum wagons. Fable, for example, could certainly be scum if Zelda was less important for night actions than Bart.

people not voting pzelda or el barto at day end: choxorn, logic, egix, merl1n, newyn

i know im good and i think logic and newyn are good. that leaves choxorn and egix

I agree, but don't townread Newyn.

i still think it could be ladd, but i need to read with the information that el barto was bad and see what that changes. ladd and choxorn were options to vote but the top 2 vote getters were both bad. feels meaningful

Considering Bart's last vote, and the existence of a ladd wagon as a counterwagon to Bart at least, and merlin's quote of ladd on Bart's self-pres, and his consistent tone, I would actually say he's probably clear. Egix is a good place to start today, I told ya he was mean (and I heard he likes pillaging).

something i thought about overnight when looking at who was in the game was that i think no one mentioned csargo at all yesterday, despite him barely posting. other ppl who didn't post much got scrutiny/votes, but he got none. meaningful? idk

I'm going to err on the side of caution and say he's within town meta.

Don't feel like that's a great reason to remove Monty from the list, if you want to be thorough.

I did vote both Barto and Zelda (and Barto, that was for a reason).

yea

Is this what they call mindmeld?

Word of warning: Monty's a busser, so I think solving him in terms of how other people treat him is going to be more useful here. I still think he's town though.

To be precise, I only bus on occasions when I see no alternative (except for those few times when my partners wanted me to bus them early as a gambit.)

I suppose I'll compile one of those representations of vote history for D1 wagonomics. Tomorrow.


LEANS


insaner
merlin


Zack


Ladd
GH
Logic


dyachei
Csargo
Cuth
Choxorn
Newyn
Fable


Egix

[Montmorency]

Also too, I think Zack shot Barto because that would be most narratively appropriate.

[merl1n]

confirmed/dead good:
empoof

very strong good:
zack
insaner

probably good:
ladd
general
montmorency

voted for bad(s), need to look at closer:
fable
dyachei
cuthilius
csargo

didn't vote for bad(s), but think they're good:
logic
newyn

didn't vote for bad(s), could be bad on own merit:
choxorn
egix

dead/confirmed bad:
el barto
pzelda

[merl1n]

i reread through game and updating my groupings that seem so popular with ppl

confirmed/dead good:
empoof

very strong good:
zack
insaner

probably good:
ladd
general
montmorency

likely good:
fable
dyachei
newyn

maybe good:
logic
cuthilius
csargo

maybe bad:
choxorn
egix

dead/confirmed bad:
el barto
pzelda

ppl are already voting egix so

vote: choxorn

maybe i should have logic a grouping lower than i do, bcz with ladd no longer being a strong bad read for me idk why i think logic is good. if there are bads voting for bads it is probably one of cuthilius or csargo

[merl1n]

general and ladd are close to being up 1 grouping but the interactions going both directions are stronger for zack and insaner

fable is maybe 1 grouping too low too, i think i think i think he is more good than the other two in his grouping, but all 3 are probz good

ama if u have questions

[Csargo]

I did vote both Barto and Zelda (and Barto, that was for a reason).

[merl1n]

in a irl game we'd just instantly kill egix and choxorn and then see where game stands in this kind of situation

[GeneralHankerchief]

in a irl game we'd just instantly kill egix and choxorn and then see where game stands in this kind of situation

This is pretty much where I'm at right now, but we get the added bonus of 45 more hours to fully iron things out.