04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

[Insaner]

For the most part I'm not going to be engaging with you for the rest of this phase, but the red is completely ridiculous.

I could simply have ignored you, for starters.

And how would that have turned out for ya.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Don't forget that Barto did try a vote for Ladd post EOD.

Right, yeah, when it was too late. Still not sure it changes my calculus much. Maybe means a max of one on ladd before Barto moved, just because I think most teams don't like to bunch up that much.

[Insaner]

only the red part was ridiculous?

[Insaner]

thats the "what happened" pov ya. im thinking more on specifics in terms of how ppl positioned themselves to get credit or not get credit

ive bn focusing on the ppl who didnt vote for a bad but: im good, i think newyn is good, ppl call logic good, that leaves exactly egix. so theres at least 1 and maybe 2 ppl bussing if egix is bad/good respectively. with two bads under fire, who looked like they were trying to turn a shitty situation into something that benefitted them?

Admit it nobody will give you a better answer than mine.

[Zack]

Right, yeah, when it was too late. Still not sure it changes my calculus much. Maybe means a max of one on ladd before Barto moved, just because I think most teams don't like to bunch up that much.

GH, follow me onto dya.

[merl1n]

Admit it nobody will give you a better answer than mine.

i dont think your answer is right, though, so low bar for them to clear xD

[Insaner]

i dont think your answer is right, though, so low bar for them to clear xD

[GeneralHankerchief]

GH, follow me onto dya.

lol, how long have you been waiting to use that one

I'm good for now, mostly because there's an annoying fly that I feel like swatting that will hopefully stop buzzing in my ear once we get Egix.

[Insaner]

lol, how long have you been waiting to use that one

I'm good for now, mostly because there's an annoying fly that I feel like swatting that will hopefully stop buzzing in my ear once we get Egix.

This is the kind of post you should have made yesterday. I guess it won't be as easy catching you in the future games eh?

[Fable]

It is a real thought. I've seen you wolf in champs, and nowhere else that I can recall.
You pretty much started your day with "kill ladd" and said it was easy read, kinda repeat that a few times without really looking at anyone else, and then.... you vote pzelda because you would feel bad about a lazy vote?

It's not tho.

Like okay yes you saw me wolf champs am I anywhere near close to that at all? And yeah I voted for zelda because ladd was efforting and would have felt really bad if that was a mislynch (it's important to meme responsibly) and zelda's posts seemed empty af. Similar to yours, I know you can analyze pretty well as a villager and if the best you can do is ignore me all game then tunnel the second I vote you when you clearly have not paid attention to me at all this game and act like you had that read the whole time nah I can't believe that.

Not to mention you have a lot of questions that felt empty, I can pull them up later but the one that stuck out was asking GH to expand on him playing differently than he would on MU. What did you think you were going to learn from that?

[Fable]

Dya is a terrible vote today btw don't do that so says the person who owns dya's soul.

[Zack]

I guess there is an outside chance of cuth/newyn/csargo or choxorn chicanery but I just don't really believe it

I still think it's egix + dya, just like I did during the night and at SOD

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

now's the part where village implodes on itself after the hot start and rams home three mislynches in a row and my reads are butt

[merl1n]

I guess there is an outside chance of cuth/newyn/csargo or choxorn chicanery but I just don't really believe it

I still think it's egix + dya, just like I did during the night and at SOD

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

now's the part where village implodes on itself after the hot start and rams home three mislynches in a row and my reads are butt

minus newyn and maybe plus logic and this is exactly where im at

[Cuthillius]

but so was logic and you just voted him?





can you explain what made you switch this read so drastically?

I get that you said you can't figure out why, but can you try to go slightly more in detail?

thanks

meh but i think i can get to logic better than i can get to fable on my own

also fable was ridiculously high up on his list and i assumed there was a Very Good Reason

and iirc logic wasn't

she made posts today

and genuinely no i can't explain it

i'd like it if you could explain it for me, but i'm at a loss

yesterday i felt oh hey i could lynch dya

today i don't want to

that's the extent of it

[Insaner]

How many people are town reading Cuth rn?

[Zack]

Well, fun fact, there's a lot of people I don't know so I don't know how to read them yet. There's a lot of fluff there, from the people I know… Zack's playing so within his meta that he can be anything. Choxorn, well, as you point out, yes, but he's fluffy.
Cuthillius looks town, you… cannot tell, the rest is up for grabs.

But in my brain-fried state I want to vote Insaner simply because of -as I quoted- whatever he's doing with the tallies. Seriously, Monty posts one vote and in the immediate next one Insaner misrepresents Monty's vote in the tally, has been going on about how wolfy people who vote for me are, and then misrepresents Monty as voting for me.

Can we have a real one?
vote:Insaner

fake edit: freaking xposts there's over a dozen posts I haven't read since #631 already.

the random cuth townread is interesting

his read on choxorn does not actually say anything afaict

[Insaner]

the random cuth townread is interesting

[Fable]

idk about recently but afaik dya has tried her best to get away from her busing meta for years so I'm very doubtful she's gonna bus zelda d1 like that.

[Zack]

that zack/gh are good, that everyone involved is alive? it seems to operate under the assumption that you can trust zack/gh to be correct when they could be bad

this was super nitpicky

[merl1n]

How many people are town reading Cuth rn?

i'm not reading him as good, but think he's less likely to be bad than a couple others.

i think egix has to die b/c he has the least going for him out of the ppl that didn't vote for a bad yesterday. i think dyachei probably is the most likely bad of the ppl voting for a bad, b/c of the exercise i proposed. i think she was weirdly sure and aggressive on her pzelda push in a way that felt like she was trying 2 get credit for it. csargo and cuth are kind of being maybe unfairly lumped tgther if either of those r wrong, bc i think everyone else is more likely to be good

[Zack]

Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
4 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo, Monty)
5 PZelda (Insaner, Dya, GH, Fable, ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
3 Ladd (Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
2 CHoxorn (Empoof, Newyn)

LMK if i've made a mistake.

would be very surprised if the zelda and barto voters were all town, especially with an off-wagon nightkill

I'm not a wolf

I doubt insaner, ladd, gh, or monty are

don't really think fable is one either

I don't think csargo is wolfy but hard to clear him. not sure about cuth. and then there's dya.

[Logic]

It's not tho.

Like okay yes you saw me wolf champs am I anywhere near close to that at all? And yeah I voted for zelda because ladd was efforting and would have felt really bad if that was a mislynch (it's important to meme responsibly) and zelda's posts seemed empty af. Similar to yours, I know you can analyze pretty well as a villager and if the best you can do is ignore me all game then tunnel the second I vote you when you clearly have not paid attention to me at all this game and act like you had that read the whole time nah I can't believe that.

Not to mention you have a lot of questions that felt empty, I can pull them up later but the one that stuck out was asking GH to expand on him playing differently than he would on MU. What did you think you were going to learn from that?

You say it's not a real thought, but your reasoning doesn't make any sense for why not.

1 game does not a meta make. You say you were meming, and that Pzelda's posts were empty and that mine are. Why is meming better? It's just as empty, but there is no solving of any kind there. You didn't really come to my attention until you voted me, so I decided to look at you with real scrutiny. The pzelda vote looks like a bus on a teammate that you know is going down, and based on who was here and awake at the time, looks like a good option since you can get some kind of credit in an otherwise bad situation. Since Barto flipped with a role that sounds more like a PR than pzelda did, it looks even MORE like a bus to me.

As for my "empty question" to GH: I never let someone leave a hanging statement like that if I notice it.
"But I'm not in my normal meta" should always be followed up with a "why?"
If they can't explain it, pressure more. GH's answer wasn't great, but it satisfied me for the moment.

RE: Other empty questions: AMA. I'm about to leave the thread soonish to drive home, but I plan to be back for EOD. @ me for ones you specifically want answered.

[Insaner]

Who do you guys think is dying at night? I bet it's gonna be Choxorn.

[Logic]

Who do you guys think is dying at night? I bet it's gonna be Choxorn.

I can see maf setting chox up for tinfoil mislynch if he's actually town. I wouldn't kill him until n3 if I were scum.

[merl1n]

Who do you guys think is dying at night? I bet it's gonna be Choxorn.

i don't really think this is a productive discussion? seems like it helps bads more than goods

[Cuthillius]

hopefully they shoot the people openly discussing night kills

[Egix]

Who do you guys think is dying at night? I bet it's gonna be Choxorn.

noone answer this ffs

[merl1n]

noone answer this ffs

ur following along, but this is what you comment on out of everything that has been happening?

[Insaner]

hopefully they shoot the people openly discussing night kills

[dyachei]

hey dya, why did you choose to ISO people in the order you did?

they're in my null pile and I need to sort them

as I said before I started ISOing them. but I'm kind of tired of ISOing rn and keep hoping work will slow down enough for me to have actual interactions with people since I thrive better there