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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    ...ask Corbyn (hard socialist), McDonnell (Trotskyist) or Frank Field (hardcore Old Labour).
    Do you want a bit of mayonnaise with your omlette topped, custard covered egg pudding? You are just waving around Tory scare words to excite yourself.

    Corbyn is a fairly traditional labour democratic socialist, same as Field and McDonnell. This is the political tradition that rebuilt the country after WW2, that gave us the health service, a welfare state, safety at work, basic consumer and civil rights. To masquerade these things as bad is like the bonkers ukippers who bemoan the European human rights act (which Britain drafted).
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    Yes, but leavened 80:20 with a bulk of solid british common sense. :)

    He does represent a change, looking to move the median spend of gdp from sub 40 to 45 plus... which is why i oppose him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Do you want a bit of mayonnaise with your omlette topped, custard covered egg pudding? You are just waving around Tory scare words to excite yourself.

    Corbyn is a fairly traditional labour democratic socialist, same as Field and McDonnell. This is the political tradition that rebuilt the country after WW2, that gave us the health service, a welfare state, safety at work, basic consumer and civil rights. To masquerade these things as bad is like the bonkers ukippers who bemoan the European human rights act (which Britain drafted).
    Three day week? Bailout by the IMF? Strikes? Rampant inflation?

    It is that tradition I'm hoping to avoid.

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    Monster raving loony party were running in my area, brexit party didnt.
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    Both the Labour candidate and the Tory candidate were from elsewhere - both from parts of London. At least neither even pretended to give to much of a crap about the local area.

    We did have an independent ex-Tory standing so that might make for a more interesting vote than is usually the case round here.

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    #yay
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    That exit poll prediction is simply w t f.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    That exit poll prediction is simply w t f.
    I'm not that surprised by it. It just shows my disappointment at Corbyn as Labour leader is entirely justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Do you want a bit of mayonnaise with your omlette topped, custard covered egg pudding? You are just waving around Tory scare words to excite yourself.

    Corbyn is a fairly traditional labour democratic socialist, same as Field and McDonnell. This is the political tradition that rebuilt the country after WW2, that gave us the health service, a welfare state, safety at work, basic consumer and civil rights. To masquerade these things as bad is like the bonkers ukippers who bemoan the European human rights act (which Britain drafted).
    if I want to excite myself we have the Babe Thread.

    I actually have a lot of respect for Frank Field, he is precisely the sort of Old Labour politician who rebuilt the country after the war, as you say. McDonnell is a self-described Trot though and Corbyn is that kind of Hard-Left Middle Class politician who'll flirt with anything anti-British, including the mouthpieces of Russian and Iranian despots.
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