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    Still dont understand your point. Where did I say to listen to toxic people or are you calling me a troll and asking why anyone should listen to me?

    If it is the latter, I dont expect hooahguy to care about what I say, we've never met. I'm just giving him my opinion cause I think it is good advice to distance yourself from social media.
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    Still dont understand your point. Where did I say to listen to toxic people or are you calling me a troll and asking why anyone should listen to me?

    If it is the latter, I dont expect hooahguy to care about what I say, we've never met. I'm just giving him my opinion cause I think it is good advice to distance yourself from social media.
    Hooahguy is pointing out the hypocrisy of people calling "Mayor Pete" a rat and then trying to court his supporters - against his endorsement of Biden, no less.

    Simply saying "Oh, don't listen to twitter" does not address the existence of these toxic Sanders supporters. Also, let's be honest, like it or not people kill themselves over twitter all the time because online trolls are persistent and inescapable.
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    What PFH said, but also that the twitter/online trolling turns into real harassment. For example, when the Nevada Culinary Workers Union simply stated that Bernie's plan would end their negotiated health care plan, the union leaders got doxxed and got sent death threats. As another example, Bernie backers went to the house of the chairman of the Nevada Dems with a bullhorn in the middle of the night. There is no excusing any of this behavior.

    You are also downplaying how important social media is for some professions, such as journalism. Very often, its one of the best ways to get a new article or information out to people. Sometimes it is one of the only ways, such as for online-only publications. So for many, being off social media is not viable to grow your career. And when things like this happen, it can be rather off-putting. The reason for that harassment? He wrote an article about a Bernie campaign member who was saying awful things about other candidates who then got fired because of the article. While its good that the campaign member in question got fired, its telling about the culture of a campaign when the reaction to this was to harass the person who reported on it.
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    Here is my quick and dirty unsubstantiated forecast for kicks. Early voting generally not taken into account.

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    [Meta: Warren expect overperform mine]
    [Meta: High estimate for Bloom]

    Biden/Sanders tied in Texas
    Cali Sanders 33+ vs. Biden 25+ (60-70), Warren 20, Bloom 15 [delayed tally]
    Alabama Biden 40+, Sanders/Bloom tie (20)
    Arkansas Biden 30+, Sanders/Bloom tie (20/25)
    Oklahoma doubled, Biden 35, Sanders 25, Bloom/Warren tie (20)
    Tennessee Biden 45, Sanders 25, Bloom 15, Warren 10
    North Caro doubled, Biden 35, Sanders 25, Bloom 20, Warren 15
    Virginia doubled, Biden 40, Sanders/Bloom/Warren tie (20)
    Vermont Sanders 50+, Warren/Biden/Bloom tie (15)
    Massa Warren/Sanders/Biden tie (25), Bloom 15
    Maine doubled, Sanders 35, Biden 25, Bloom 20, Warren 15
    Minnesota doubled, Sanders/Biden tie (30), Bloom 20, Warren 15
    Utah quadrupled, Sanders/Biden/Bloom tie (25), Warren 20
    Colorado Sanders 30, Warren/Biden tie (20), Bloom 15



    Major insight: If Warren reaches threshold in states/counties then she drains delegates from Sanders, yes, but she drains more from Biden + Bloomberg. In any state where Biden leads, Warren reaching threshold mathematically always hurts Biden alone more than Sanders alone.

    Warren, fight for 15!

    Also, like I was saying...

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