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    So this is a fascinating development- McConnell is reportedly "pleased" about impeachment. I dont blame him for wanting Trump out. He served his purpose before but McConnell undoubtedly blames Trump for losing the Senate. I mean on November 10th, the GOP was in a great place- narrow Dem majority in the House and seemed likely to hold onto the Senate. But then Trump kept going on about election fraud for two months and cost the GOP the Senate in a very winnable election. Trump is now a toxic entity and McConnell wants a clean break to try to get rid of Trumpism. Unfortunately for him, it wont be that easy as the Trumpists will plague the GOP for a long time to come. He sowed the wind and will reap the whirlwind.

    Edit: Liz Cheney, chair of the House Republican Conference (#3 in leadership) says she will vote to impeach. Fascinating power play here as shes essentially angling to replace McCarthy as House minority leader by detaching herself from Trump (McCarthy and Scalise have stayed close to Trump). Huge rift in the GOP right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    So this is a fascinating development- McConnell is reportedly "pleased" about impeachment. I dont blame him for wanting Trump out. He served his purpose before but McConnell undoubtedly blames Trump for losing the Senate. I mean on November 10th, the GOP was in a great place- narrow Dem majority in the House and seemed likely to hold onto the Senate. But then Trump kept going on about election fraud for two months and cost the GOP the Senate in a very winnable election. Trump is now a toxic entity and McConnell wants a clean break to try to get rid of Trumpism. Unfortunately for him, it wont be that easy as the Trumpists will plague the GOP for a long time to come. He sowed the wind and will reap the whirlwind.
    A bit like the Corbynites on the left here in the UK. He managed to energise the base, but was toxic to everyone else, and now his personal following are determined to ruin the party he's with. Corbyn never got into power here though, and it's hard to imagine him being as bad as Trump has been, or his support as destructive. But in terms of their relationship with the party they were affiliated with, they're comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    A bit like the Corbynites on the left here in the UK. He managed to energise the base, but was toxic to everyone else, and now his personal following are determined to ruin the party he's with. Corbyn never got into power here though, and it's hard to imagine him being as bad as Trump has been, or his support as destructive. But in terms of their relationship with the party they were affiliated with, they're comparable.
    Thats a definitely interesting comparison, didnt make that connection but I definitely see it.

    Also if anyone wants some reading tonight, the House Judiciary Dems put together a 50 page report supporting the impeachment. PDF link
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