Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[GeneralHankerchief]

can you talk more about dya? you didn’t think they were even a bit >rand wolf D1?

I thought dya was basically "Amy but with fewer active problems", and Csar had the meta discrepancy I pointed out. It was enough for me to prioritize keeping them around.

[Hally]

I currently have him as town but it's a low-confidence read.

alright

wbu @Visor?

[Hally]

gh/dya w/w

change my mind.

shhhh, you’re not supposed to say it yet

[Raskolnikov]

Obvious thoughts are to not heal Raskolnikov; I see people are already there though, nice!!!

I'm going to try and refrain from posting overly much today as well, don't really want to overly !!!!!!!! the thread again!!

Raskolnikov, it'd be easier to just treat you as confirmed town and try to solve with you today... that being said, what quick takes did you end up with from your ISOs thus far? Or if you want to save it for later after you've read more, that's cool too; no rush!!!

There is no maj in this game, as a note!

I still need to reread EoD; last thoughts from just after the flip were that I liked Dolby's presence!!

I think I posted where I was before EOD. Mostly dropped Dolby to scum lean.

I will leave to sleep a bit now.

[dyachei]

we can talk about whatever

who da woofs, etc

idk yet

I dont like raskol's phrasing of things - felt like it was to make a bigger deal of his solving with visor than he was doing but he's poisoned so probably not a slot I need to solve today?

I need to read esooa's other posts (yes, I know, you already disagree with my premise there). It's just a mindset thing. villagers usually vote for a reason, wolves usually vote for agenda

[ColonelLubriderm]

im pretty much in the same mindset as i was at the end of day 1;

My lone tinfoil was that sunbae was snowing me and villa read ara too easily along with csargo;

Part of the reason i went CSargo over rasko/dya. I thikn it was possible for csargo to be a wolf in all worlds, and with argo flipping V and sunbae being a V and rasko being poisoned. all the answers are a day phase away for me before i see if i have to completely rethink where i'm at.

One thing that's true is that if rasko is a villa and dya turns out to be a wolf(note: i am currently leaning not eliminating dya this phase) there is no way in a million years i am ever not tunneling the ta-tas off of GH. ITs a thought i can't fully explain but the basic gist that i can relay is that him saying no to dyachei but yes to rasko/csargo and it turns out rasko csargo are villa and dya.

If I was the poisoner I would poison manti/manasi the following phases

Part of the reason I wouldn't want to dig into dya is that I associate them being a wolf with raqsko being a wolf alot so rasko being poisoned lets me peek into that world while i might want to eliminate into another possibility. I might change my mind though but its where im at now

[ColonelLubriderm]

gh/dya w/w

change my mind.

sick xpost

[Hally]

I thought dya was basically "Amy but with fewer active problems", and Csar had the meta discrepancy I pointed out. It was enough for me to prioritize keeping them around.

okay but dya had fewer active problems because they were hardly itt and never did anything when they were, which in and of itself is a problem and i don’t understand how you’re not seeing it as such

i mean, you know dya. you know what they’re like as a villager and that they hate wolfing/have had to wolf a lot lately. you saw how they played D1. it’s kinda baffling to me you weren’t even a little concerned

[ColonelLubriderm]

I didnt even finish the GH thought in my previous post due to frothing at the thought of tunneling on GH, but i think the gist can be gotten

[Montmorency]

gh/dya w/w

change my mind.

What happens if they all flip town?

[Hally]

gh, i feel like you’re playing dumb wrt dya and it reminds me of how you dismissed concerns about newcomb D1 of rocks inv

i really just don’t believe you can’t grasp why dya was wolfy D1 or why we’re concerned about them

[GeneralHankerchief]

okay but dya had fewer active problems because they were hardly itt and never did anything when they were, which in and of itself is a problem and i don’t understand how you’re not seeing it as such

i mean, you know dya. you know what they’re like as a villager and that they hate wolfing/have had to wolf a lot lately. you saw how they played D1. it’s kinda baffling to me you weren’t even a little concerned

I think you're misinterpreting. I did not have dya as town yesterday, just the least likely to flip scum among the three. Amy was in the exact same situation as dya but was actively scummier for me before the sub, which I and others commented on (+Rask's posting didn't really move the needle for me). I went for my higher percentages.

[Hally]

idk yet

I dont like raskol's phrasing of things - felt like it was to make a bigger deal of his solving with visor than he was doing but he's poisoned so probably not a slot I need to solve today?

I need to read esooa's other posts (yes, I know, you already disagree with my premise there). It's just a mindset thing. villagers usually vote for a reason, wolves usually vote for agenda

i’m not really interested in talking about rask because he’s always dying. is what it is

and okay, looking forward to that

[dyachei]

i seem to be a hot topic

[ColonelLubriderm]

dya's jumping into this phase doing their thing and im happy to see where it goes

[Hally]

What happens if they all flip town?

do you think gh and dya are both town?

[dyachei]

why does it have to be wolfy hally?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Look,

dya was inactive D1 and their posting was off because of it.
Amy was inactive D1 and her posting was off because of it.
That's the baseline, and they both took hits for it in terms of my personal read.

The problems I had with dya's posts yesterday could all be explained by said inactivity/disconnectedness.
The problems I had with Amy's posts yesterday could NOT all be explained by said inactivity/disconnectedness.

Hence, I prioritized Amy/Rask over dya, separately from my own issues with Csargo. I don't really think this should be particularly hard to understand.

And now I really am stepping back.

[ColonelLubriderm]

i think its completely plausible for gh/dya to be any combination of alignments

[Hally]

I think you're misinterpreting. I did not have dya as town yesterday, just the least likely to flip scum among the three. Amy was in the exact same situation as dya but was actively scummier for me before the sub, which I and others commented on (+Rask's posting didn't really move the needle for me). I went for my higher percentages.

i don’t think i’m misinterpreting. you seem to be claiming dya was completely rand last day. i’m saying that i don’t understand how you, knowing dya, could actually think that

[Montmorency]

do you think gh and dya are both town?

I meant Rask and dya. Then Visor ain't such a hotshot! Obviously a lot of contingency here.

[Hally]

dya's jumping into this phase doing their thing and im happy to see where it goes

yea, i don’t wanna smother them

[Raskolnikov]

idk yet

I dont like raskol's phrasing of things - felt like it was to make a bigger deal of his solving with visor than he was doing but he's poisoned so probably not a slot I need to solve today?

vote: dyachei

You are making this up.

[dyachei]

vote: dyachei

You are making this up.

Im really not though

[Hally]

why does it have to be wolfy hally?

why does what? your D1? because i’ve never seen you play that way as a villager ever. i think of v!dya as an invested, passionate solver and i saw none of that D1. i’m fine seeing what you do toDay since you seem to be getting into things more, but i think my concerns over your D1 are justified

[dyachei]

I started by Visor because I wanted to read his case on Dya, after we talked about it itt. And also because he implied I would have to fight back on D2, I wanted to check out if I could see what pinged him.
mafia-indicative of Dya: dunno really. About Dya I mean. But it's not uncommon for scums to pick a weird thing and pack it to make it look an acceptable case. The least I can say is that I am not sold on it, but we reacted very differently at Esooa's post and I am wondering if it's AI.

why wouldn't mafia just not check it out, in the same position? I am puzzled if this is a real question tbh (first time we play together so I'll give in :p). Why would mafia do it? To look townie? Above all the unnecesary attention and questions it will raise? I mean scums will want to push stuff and fake others but that tiny bit of derping won't save them if the whole picture is bad. Maybe some will have fun doing it, but I think most won't do it.

I can relate about the votecount but "c'est la vie".

apparently rask thinks that he and visor talked about my read in thread

OK I have a some time rn so I will ISO Csargo, Dya, and Ampharos (my slot).
@Visor, @pzelda: abort mission. This is a fail.

this was the convo beforehand and the only post that might fit that definition

an exaggeration at best

[dyachei]

I started by Visor because I wanted to read his case on Dya, after we talked about it itt. And also because he implied I would have to fight back on D2, I wanted to check out if I could see what pinged him.
mafia-indicative of Dya: dunno really. About Dya I mean. But it's not uncommon for scums to pick a weird thing and pack it to make it look an acceptable case. The least I can say is that I am not sold on it, but we reacted very differently at Esooa's post and I am wondering if it's AI.

why wouldn't mafia just not check it out, in the same position? I am puzzled if this is a real question tbh (first time we play together so I'll give in :p). Why would mafia do it? To look townie? Above all the unnecesary attention and questions it will raise? I mean scums will want to push stuff and fake others but that tiny bit of derping won't save them if the whole picture is bad. Maybe some will have fun doing it, but I think most won't do it.

I can relate about the votecount but "c'est la vie".

why does what? your D1? because i’ve never seen you play that way as a villager ever. i think of v!dya as an invested, passionate solver and i saw none of that D1. i’m fine seeing what you do toDay since you seem to be getting into things more, but i think my concerns over your D1 are justified

have you seen me play that way as a wolf?

it just feels like you're taking a cheap shot

[dyachei]

see it's fun to offhandedly dismiss someone's concerns about a slot!

[Hally]

have you seen me play that way as a wolf?

it just feels like you're taking a cheap shot

fair point, and this is why i didn’t push you more D1. but at the same time, i do think you tend towards lower investment as a wolf even if it’s not quite been to this level

again, i don’t want to harp on this you or gh now though. you’re here, you’re doing stuff, i’m happy to see where it goes

[Hally]

i’m gonna step back too because i think i’ve been smothering the thread too much this game. i’ll try to control myself better