Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[Hally]

who wants to play find the villa in esooa/ara/manasi

lol

interactions/spew: esooa > manasi = ara

play: ara > esooa > manasi

[Hally]

visor why is bop a villager

[Visor]

visor why is bop a villager

he just feels like he gives a shit and is angry

idk id be annoyed if he treated me this way as a wolf

[Hally]

my issues with bop are

1) i feel like he set up a dichotomy of there always being a wolf in cuth/monty since like D2. i need to go back and see how he arrived at that but iirc it was something like “i hate cuth’s read on me/think it’s wolfy but if cuth is a villa he has a point that monty is wolfy” which seems kind of unnatural/like he was trying to tie two villas together. and then D3/4 when a lot of us were coming around to monty villa he was vocally opposed to it and kept hammering on the “eliminating monty/cuth/manti always gets a wolf” thing to keep monty in the poe

2) i think the way he’s approached visor is weird. iirc D3 he was pushing that visor would bus dya because he did it in a pog mash D1 but then from visor’s response it sounded like the situations were completely different and bussing in a mash is different from a small game like that so i struggle to see how that’s a genuine point from bop. and just generally my sense of how bop has treated visor has been trying to lay the groundwork to lunch visor in lylo/setting him up as the deep wolf so he could point back like he is now and go “i’ve been sussing you for so long but just never did anything about it because ??? idk.” idk, i’m prepared to eat shit if visor is a wolf but in light of monty/cuth both being villas i feel like visor had one of the villageriest treatments of them especially last day? but bop hasn’t reevaluated and is still pushing visor now and i don’t really get it. and then i ask him why and he can’t tell me why visor is wolfy, just that he’s the “least villagery” even though he’s been sussing visor for days. like, why was bop sussing him if he doesn’t think visor is wolfy

i don’t know, as i’m typing this out i’m doubting myself but here you go. there’s other stuff too like his EoD1 voting between csargo and rask but not dya. but honestly i don’t really even hold that against him by itself

i’d like a sanity check on this if it’s intelligible

[Visor]

my issues with bop are

1) i feel like he set up a dichotomy of there always being a wolf in cuth/monty since like D2. i need to go back and see how he arrived at that but iirc it was something like “i hate cuth’s read on me/think it’s wolfy but if cuth is a villa he has a point that monty is wolfy” which seems kind of unnatural/like he was trying to tie two villas together. and then D3/4 when a lot of us were coming around to monty villa he was vocally opposed to it and kept hammering on the “eliminating monty/cuth/manti always gets a wolf” thing to keep monty in the poe

2) i think the way he’s approached visor is weird. iirc D3 he was pushing that visor would bus dya because he did it in a pog mash D1 but then from visor’s response it sounded like the situations were completely different and bussing in a mash is different from a small game like that so i struggle to see how that’s a genuine point from bop. and just generally my sense of how bop has treated visor has been trying to lay the groundwork to lunch visor in lylo/setting him up as the deep wolf so he could point back like he is now and go “i’ve been sussing you for so long but just never did anything about it because ??? idk.” idk, i’m prepared to eat shit if visor is a wolf but in light of monty/cuth both being villas i feel like visor had one of the villageriest treatments of them especially last day? but bop hasn’t reevaluated and is still pushing visor now and i don’t really get it. and then i ask him why and he can’t tell me why visor is wolfy, just that he’s the “least villagery” even though he’s been sussing visor for days. like, why was bop sussing him if he doesn’t think visor is wolfy

i don’t know, as i’m typing this out i’m doubting myself but here you go. there’s other stuff too like his EoD1 voting between csargo and rask but not dya. but honestly i don’t really even hold that against him by itself

i’d like a sanity check on this if it’s intelligible

i mean yes, these things are bad and notable

he definitely has bad stuff going for him its just i can find it hard to not buy his tone when he is posting, like his stuff about the dya self vote is just idk if thats the angle he would push as a wolf

[Hally]

i don’t deny that he feels villagery though. when i’m itt with him i wanna v read his posts. but if i step back and look at his game holistically those are the more macro issues i have

[Hally]

nice x post

[Hally]

i guess i’m just struggling to get there on a villa read based on “good toan” or whatever. i’ve never seen him wolf but i imagine a player of his caliber can fake tonal stuff in his sleep

idk, when i thought the game was easy i could just ignore this stuff and say he’s probably a villager since i didn’t think he was with cuth or monty but now we know the game is not easy and when i think about who could be fooling me i think of bop first

[Hally]

part of my paranoia on him honestly may just be lack of familiarity

[Visor]

yeah thats fair

honestly outside of this game and the mash i havent played with him for years

i think the last time was hedgehog mafia and we all know how that went lol

[Hally]

also @bop, didn’t you specifically say last day you didn’t think visor/manasi made sense as a pair? but now you’re pushing them as your solve?

[Hally]

watch me give up on this push as soon as bop comes back and types out a tirade at me on his ipad

[Visor]

watch me give up on this push as soon as bop comes back and types out a tirade at me on his ipad

lol it works on me

its like esooa

esooa posts = bad
dolby interactions = good

bops posts = good
bops pushes = bad

[Hally]

i’m picturing someone dressed as an old timey colonel furiously typing on his ipad as he lies in bed in full uniform including boots

[Hally]

i really don’t think it’s ara

i don’t even have a good reason why. her play just feels so... ara

[Visor]

i really don’t think it’s ara

i don’t even have a good reason why. her play just feels so... ara

so if you dont think its ara and you dont think its me

its bop/esooa/manasi ?

[Visor]

I think are almost always villagers
Hally, Ara

I am pretty sure they are villagers but they have some skepticism on them so I'll keep an eye on it
pZelda, Colonel, GH

Gut says V but I'm not confident in it
Esooa, Dya, Mont, Ephem, Cuth

Others feel good about but I'm skeptical of for a few reasons
Visor, Dolby

Few reasons to scumreads
Maple, Ampharos, Csargo

In this game
Manasi

why would bop/hally/ara kill sunbae here

i mean spk i guess you dont spk someone who is completely dead wrong unless you intend to leverage their reads but idr them doing it

i mean if im a wolf here i kill not sunbae 90% of the time and 10% to lock in his reads i guess?

i know ive come to this a lot but its just something to think about

i think ppl could potentially kill sunbae here because hes sunbae but shrug

[Visor]

@Manasi if you dont do anything u r gonna die

[Hally]

so if you dont think its ara and you dont think its me

its bop/esooa/manasi ?

yeah. on play they’re the least villagery imo

[Hally]

i still can’t get over the dolby stuff with esooa though

what wolf villa reads a teammate like that on like page three

[Hally]

i could maybe see it being w/w if he went back on it when he was challenged and was like “alright i guess i jumped the gun” or whatever but the way he kept doubling down even when esooa was like ??? and general freakin hankerchief called him out on it reads like he KNEW he was right. he had like no fear

[Hally]

also the way he talked about his esooa villa read was the same as how he talked about monty who we know was a villa. like the citing of very specific meta and how he doubled down on each/the confidence he expressed in them was like identical iirc

so i think it just makes more sense for esooa to be a villager too than for dolby to decide he’s gonna read a teammate and a villager the exact same way?

[Visor]

yea i did say this yday

(and then we killed monty anyway sadface)

we really fucked up by doing the cuth/monty thing

[Hally]

yea i did say this yday

(and then we killed monty anyway sadface)

we really fucked up by doing the cuth/monty thing

i didn’t wanna kill monty until he started doing whatever the fuck that was at EoD

but i wanted cuth which obviously was not any better

[Esooa]

does anyone know how to make ISO's show more than the most recent 100 posts from people? Cause that's all I can see

[Hally]

does anyone know how to make ISO's show more than the most recent 100 posts from people? Cause that's all I can see

no idea

[Hally]

esooa wya off the top of your head

[Esooa]

esooa wya off the top of your head

bop/visor/manasi

2 there

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #3328

1 Esooa (Visor)
1 Manasi (Hally)
1 No Elimination (ColonelLubriderm)

Not Voting: Arapocalypse, Esooa, Manasi

[Hally]

no not really

inclined to just look @ wagons and figure it out

3 hrs ago