Rampage Out of Space

[Winston Hughes]

I'm thinking real hard, and have no idea how you're coming to these conclusions WH.

I hate being cleared. It does strange things to my mind.

[Csargo]

Why isn't pzelda sitting on GG yesterday?

[Winston Hughes]

Why isn't pzelda sitting on GG yesterday?

You mean if I'm somehow right about all of this?

I guess because after Gnome flipped sk, it would put both of them in the tmi firing line. I had a feeling Gnome was getting chopped yesterday, and was a little surprised when the wagon didn't pick up steam. If they were reading the game the same way I was, it would make sense that the scum didn't push any harder in that direction.

As for why they'd then go ahead and do it today, I'd guess because they figure that otherwise Gnome is whacking Lew tonight, and so they really need him to go down here.

To be clear, though, while I think this theory is disturbingly plausible, I'm nowhere near convincing even myself that it's really the most likely scenario.

Which is why I'm still keen to hear what others think about it.

[Garden Gnome]

Why isn't pzelda sitting on GG yesterday?

uh, that question doesn't make any sense. :O

[Winston Hughes]

If you were sk, gg, who would you have killed n1?

[Garden Gnome]

If you were sk, gg, who would you have killed n1?

probably you.

[Csargo]

uh, that question doesn't make any sense. :O

[Winston Hughes]

Overall, I could see Vroe being non-town.

There are moments of purity that make me doubt it, but I don't get enough overall to call this a townie.

[Winston Hughes]

How many posts do I need for a deathpoint?

[Csargo]

200+

[Csargo]

uh, that question doesn't make any sense. :O

it was in regards to WH's world. in that world pzelda should be voting you imo.

[Winston Hughes]

who should be the alternative to gnome, csar?

[Montmorency]

No player has quite reached even the original daily cap of 125, tbh. Winston alone posted 1/5 of D2, but even his cap-rated posts (pre-Twilight) were only ~120.

(This isn't a challenge)

[Csargo]

who should be the alternative to gnome, csar?

same as yesterday, nothings really changed. I'd probably bump Lau up and Borg down.

[Laurentus]

same as yesterday, nothings really changed. I'd probably bump Lau up and Borg down.

Bump us up and down in terms of what, a reads list or the order in which to lynch?

[pzelda]

Lewwyn and Zelda, what are the highlights and lowlights of neighbor chat, insofar as you're allowed to talk about it, if at all?

I hate being cleared. It does strange things to my mind.

The thing I didn't mention on purpose is that my scan probably wasn't 100% reliable (unless someone else targeted you n1 with their action). My pm doesn't state the exact percentage, but I decided to trust the peek and claim it because of your actions in the thread.

[pzelda]

Let me explain my d1 meta. As scum I'm usually more derpy and super fake. As town I'm shady, because I don't want to lock too many reads too early and I'm usually trying to make less posts and that my come across as tryharding. But posts like my entrance in this game are a legacy of my experience with light games (50 posts cap) at MU and my usual effort to make myself as clear as possible asap.

I might be sharing too much about my meta, but it's rather easy to see differences if you read few games. I don't want you do that, tho. I just want to show you how I made these posts as town. Overall, I'm more likely to be wolf if you're unsure where I'm at.

That said I left out Vroe from my poe. The reasons are simple. I was thinking about moving him in town for some posts, but I need to see a list from him first. He has great posts on individual players, but I'm unsure about his "worlds."

Dolby is someone I need to focus on later. He's quite open about his reads, but they don't feel very substantial. I guess I should check how consistent he has been and if he was the first one pushing anyone.

[Laurentus]

Meh, Gnome should be the wagon for today, but I'm voting for Dolby.

If the wagons somehow get moved while I sleep (BTW, I'm not going to be here for EoD, it's in the early hours of the morning for me), then it'll probably be a combination of dumb town and really good wolfing. I think there are two wolves left? So they really shouldn't be able to do much through votes alone with how many players are still left.

Once more a reminder that if anyone tries to drive a CFD on me and I inevitably flip town, kill whoever did it in the next phase, thank you.

Bit of a legacy: the fact that Vro can't clearly tell I'm Town here is troubling, because of all people, he should know how seriously I take the responsibility of wolfing, and he knows I wouldn't TMI myself like that in some dumb stunt to get derp cleared. To a lesser extent, this applies to Dolby and Borg, too, since Dolby subbed in for me in the last game I played, and Borg was actively my scum bud, so they should know how seriously I take this too.

Csargo still hasn't clarified the inconsistency with his HK read that I prodded him on for D2.

Vote: Dolby

[pzelda]

I can't see your case for voting Dolby here over other options you mentioned. If you manage to post again before deadline, could you make an actual read?

[NANOOK]

vote: dolby

Can't remember if I've voted yet or not

Borgpicard is also >rand mafia imo

[Laurentus]

I can't see your case for voting Dolby here over other options you mentioned. If you manage to post again before deadline, could you make an actual read?

It's still because of the interaction between him and Tim on D1, which looks much like I'd expect Wolves trying to distance to look like.

I'm voting for him over the other potential options because he's more difficult to find than Vro. Despite the concern I expressed for Borg, I am still not wolf-reading him, still because of the D1 interaction with Tim. I am also not commenting on Csargo's alignment when I point out the unanswered inconsistency, I'm just reminding him and whoever else witnesses it that he hasn't answered, in case I die.

[Csargo]

Meh, Gnome should be the wagon for today, but I'm voting for Dolby.

If the wagons somehow get moved while I sleep (BTW, I'm not going to be here for EoD, it's in the early hours of the morning for me), then it'll probably be a combination of dumb town and really good wolfing. I think there are two wolves left? So they really shouldn't be able to do much through votes alone with how many players are still left.

Once more a reminder that if anyone tries to drive a CFD on me and I inevitably flip town, kill whoever did it in the next phase, thank you.

Bit of a legacy: the fact that Vro can't clearly tell I'm Town here is troubling, because of all people, he should know how seriously I take the responsibility of wolfing, and he knows I wouldn't TMI myself like that in some dumb stunt to get derp cleared. To a lesser extent, this applies to Dolby and Borg, too, since Dolby subbed in for me in the last game I played, and Borg was actively my scum bud, so they should know how seriously I take this too.

Csargo still hasn't clarified the inconsistency with his HK read that I prodded him on for D2.

Vote: Dolby

You'll have to lay it out plainly for me, because I don't understand the inconsistency.

I don't think hk/Tims were w/w, for the reason I gave. I'm not tied to that as being absolutely true, it's just an assumption from what I know about both of them.

I was tring hk D1, before Tims flipped, independently of that flip and my supposition about their association. So any perceived oddities I'd attribute more to hk being 3P/SK than a woof, which was basically what I was getting at.

At that point I was seriously considering the possibility of hk being SK, and mulling that over when I made that series of posts.