Rampage Out of Space

[CutePanda]

I think that's a bad theory. No wolf tries to expose Tim to get mech clear b/c Tim is arguably the best player on any wolf team here. Why risk your best asset dying to clear an asset that then has to dodge "why aren't you dead yet" for the rest of the game?

Which is why I called it far fetched when I mentioned it. However in most games , I see farfetched theories work and then when endgame strikes , I feel like I see it all and yet not get a consensus all by myself.

[CutePanda]

case me then wolf

I have solely trusted a Borg statement. I will put it in a quote in next post

[CutePanda]

What importance does this hold ? Is hk mafia as well ? @pzelda about the message in which I said "Tim can certainly confirm , can he not? " . I meant to quote this post , but with a slightly different mechanics and icons , I missed out. I have overcome those problems now though.

This one

[CutePanda]

Hollowkat confirmed mafia. Why else would he vote for the town cop. Tim can confirm to you in your mafia chat that he is vanilla town and that my n0 peek is 100% legit.

In response to this

[Laurentus]

In response to this

Anu, Borg is 100% not being serious when he says shit like that.

[hollowkatt]

I think they're town for outing everything. Scum Lewwyn could kill me at night without drawing all that attention to himself.

I believe that you believe this yeah

[BorgPicard]

I was only serious about the Tim part. I knew HK would not believe my role cop claim, and the jab at them, like at c4, was in jest. I was trying to hint that Tim was mad without outright hardclaiming cop, mainly since then Tim would know I was not lying about the red check.

[hollowkatt]

I loathe, with all my heart, how this forum handles quotes that contain quotes.

[hollowkatt]

@CutePanda how would Borg know I'm confirmed mafia even if borg IS town cop?
At the time that was posted Borg would have had at most one night to investigate, right? If we assume N0 is a thing and exists.

If he used his N0 to cop check Tim, which is what his claim was, when did he have the chance to check me to find me wolf?

You're taking his claim at absolute face value of being town cop with a N0 check on Tim AND that anyone who is voting for him must therefore be a wolf...

You can't possibly be town

[hollowkatt]

I was only serious about the Tim part. I knew HK would not believe my role cop claim, and the jab at them, like at c4, was in jest. I was trying to hint that Tim was mad without outright hardclaiming cop, mainly since then Tim would know I was not lying about the red check.

I know that some day you're actually going to rand cop and when that day comes I'm prepared to eat crow when I vote for you anyways. Today is not that day

[Laurentus]

I've just been sitting here for the last half an hour not having a clue what the fuck is going on between Lewwyn and Pzelda, and what it means for their alignments.

[Laurentus]

I was only serious about the Tim part. I knew HK would not believe my role cop claim, and the jab at them, like at c4, was in jest. I was trying to hint that Tim was mad without outright hardclaiming cop, mainly since then Tim would know I was not lying about the red check.

[Csargo]

Meh, Gnome should be the wagon for today, but I'm voting for Dolby.

If the wagons somehow get moved while I sleep (BTW, I'm not going to be here for EoD, it's in the early hours of the morning for me), then it'll probably be a combination of dumb town and really good wolfing. I think there are two wolves left? So they really shouldn't be able to do much through votes alone with how many players are still left.

Once more a reminder that if anyone tries to drive a CFD on me and I inevitably flip town, kill whoever did it in the next phase, thank you.

Bit of a legacy: the fact that Vro can't clearly tell I'm Town here is troubling, because of all people, he should know how seriously I take the responsibility of wolfing, and he knows I wouldn't TMI myself like that in some dumb stunt to get derp cleared. To a lesser extent, this applies to Dolby and Borg, too, since Dolby subbed in for me in the last game I played, and Borg was actively my scum bud, so they should know how seriously I take this too.

Csargo still hasn't clarified the inconsistency with his HK read that I prodded him on for D2.

Vote: Dolby

You'll have to lay it out plainly for me, because I don't understand the inconsistency.

I don't think hk/Tims were w/w, for the reason I gave. I'm not tied to that as being absolutely true, it's just an assumption from what I know about both of them.

I was tring hk D1, before Tims flipped, independently of that flip and my supposition about their association. So any perceived oddities I'd attribute more to hk being 3P/SK than a woof, which was basically what I was getting at.

At that point I was seriously considering the possibility of hk being SK, and mulling that over when I made that series of posts.

[Garden Gnome]

Anu, Borg is 100% not being serious when he says shit like that.

that's good to know.
What do you think of CutePanda's alignment?

[Garden Gnome]

@CutePanda how would Borg know I'm confirmed mafia even if borg IS town cop?
At the time that was posted Borg would have had at most one night to investigate, right? If we assume N0 is a thing and exists.

If he used his N0 to cop check Tim, which is what his claim was, when did he have the chance to check me to find me wolf?

You're taking his claim at absolute face value of being town cop with a N0 check on Tim AND that anyone who is voting for him must therefore be a wolf...

You can't possibly be town

Oh, okay. Interesting. Do you think that Tim and CutePanda are teamed? Two scum chops in a row would be sweet.

vote: CutePanda

[CutePanda]

Oh, okay. Interesting. Do you think that Tim and CutePanda are teamed? Two scum chops in a row would be sweet.

vote: CutePanda

It would be sweet if I flip wolf.

I will like to sheep Laurentus for this day , I am a bit lost .

vote:Dolby

[Laurentus]

that's good to know.
What do you think of CutePanda's alignment?

I'm leaning town, but it can go either way. I don't think he's paying the most attention to this game right now, because I know his schedule is very busy, and he also lives in India, where, if you've watched the news recently, you'll know there is a lot of really terrible stuff happening right now. So all that really shouldn't place him above a null, however, this is just so much what his usual town strategy is where he picks battles with really widely townread players, that I can believe he's just very confused town.

[Laurentus]

I should note that I only have meta for him as Town, though. He's never randed scum in the games we've played together.

[hollowkatt]

Oh, okay. Interesting. Do you think that Tim and CutePanda are teamed? Two scum chops in a row would be sweet.

vote: CutePanda

I haven't seen anything that would preclude CutePanda and Tim from being a team. I'd like to see CutePanda respond to my post though, that'd be neat

[Garden Gnome]

It would be sweet if I flip wolf.

I will like to sheep Laurentus for this day , I am a bit lost .

vote:Dolby

I wish that I would flip wolf. That would be entertaining.
Tell me what makes you feel confident in Laurentus's scum read of Delby.

[Garden Gnome]

I'm leaning town, but it can go either way. I don't think he's paying the most attention to this game right now, because I know his schedule is very busy, and he also lives in India, where, if you've watched the news recently, you'll know there is a lot of really terrible stuff happening right now. So all that really shouldn't place him above a null, however, this is just so much what his usual town strategy is where he picks battles with really widely townread players, that I can believe he's just very confused town.

Yikes! I hope that CutePanda is okay!!!
Could you talk about Dolby?

[Garden Gnome]

It would be sweet if I flip wolf.

I will like to sheep Laurentus for this day , I am a bit lost .

vote:Dolby

Please stay safe, CutePanda.

[Laurentus]

I wish that I would flip wolf. That would be entertaining.
Tell me what makes you feel confident in Laurentus's scum read of Delby.

That's much better. Question everything, and never stop. Just don't forget to actually make a case for why a certain post or underlying thinking could be alignment Indicative.

[Laurentus]

Yikes! I hope that CutePanda is okay!!!
Could you talk about Dolby?

Something specific you wish to know?

[Montmorency]

HOST TALLY 3-2

Gnome (4): Zelda, Ibn, Dolby, Lewwyn
Dolby (3): Laurentus, Nanook, Panda
Panda (2): Hollow, Gnome

[invalid] (1): Winston

Not Voting (3): Borg, Csargo, Vro


Movement

[Hollow] Borg >> Gnome >> Panda
[Zelda] Vroendal >> Gnome
[Gnome] Hollow >> Lewwyn >> Panda

[hollowkatt]

It would be sweet if I flip wolf.

I will like to sheep Laurentus for this day , I am a bit lost .

vote:Dolby

Why do you think Dolby is a wolf?

[Garden Gnome]

Something specific you wish to know?

Yes, what makes you think that Dolby is a wolf? Is there anything specific that Dolby did that says wolf to you?

[Laurentus]

No, it's literally just because of his interaction with Tim, which looks to me like it could be scum partners distancing. Dolby is a fantastic player, so there's not going to be anything obvious if he did rand scum.

[Garden Gnome]

No, it's literally just because of his interaction with Tim, which looks to me like it could be scum partners distancing. Dolby is a fantastic player, so there's not going to be anything obvious if he did rand scum.

All right. That is helpful. I'm going to have to think about this because I've read comments indicating that CutePanda could be scum and comments about Dolby being scum. All are fairly convincing. I will take a walk while it's still warm and not stormy and decide how to vote since self pres might be the way to go for me. Also, I'd like to point out that no one has given much reason for reading me as scum other than less than awesome play style, which, as far as I know, is not AI.

[Laurentus]

Okay, I'm calling it a night here. Best of luck.