UK Politics Thread

**Montmorency** · 02-05-2022, 06:57

Originally Posted by Furunculus

you don't fire the likes of Munira Mirza - she was the brains of the outfit.

Johnson fired his other brains, Dominic Cummings.

**Pannonian** · 02-05-2022, 10:54

It's just occurred to me, watching the latest Jonathan Pie, that our Lords is mostly Commons appointees, while the leader of the elected Commons is the descendant of a Turkish aristocrat.

**Furunculus** · 02-05-2022, 10:56

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Johnson fired his other brains, Dominic Cummings.

i think we can all agree that Cummings is in a class all of his own.

brilliant, yes, but a loose cannon with no concept of discretion.

**Pannonian** · 02-05-2022, 11:20

Originally Posted by Furunculus

i think we can all agree that Cummings is in a class all of his own.

brilliant, yes, but a loose cannon with no concept of discretion.

Maybe not brilliant, but our PM is also known to be a loose cannon with no concept of discretion. The security services advised our then PM (Theresa May) not to give her foreign secretary the normal access to state secrets, as he couldn't be trusted.

**Pannonian** · 02-07-2022, 19:30

Keir Starmer rescued by police after being mobbed by anti-vaxxers outside Parliament

Officers were forced to step in and take the Labour leader to safety as the crowd shouted abuse and false claims about Jimmy Savile

This is the kind of politics the PM has brought to the UK. Despite people urging him not to use that attack line because it was false. How long will Johnson remain PM?

**Pannonian** · 02-08-2022, 08:48

The PM's new director of communications is a Huawei lobbyist, who's directly lobbied no.10 before for that company. Security clearance for that level normally takes weeks even when accelerated, but it's been waived for someone who works for a company that the security services deem a threat to the country.

Do people really hate the EU that much that they'd rather sell out the country to China than to have any kind of links with Europe?

**rory_20_uk** · 02-08-2022, 11:15

Originally Posted by Pannonian

The PM's new director of communications is a Huawei lobbyist, who's directly lobbied no.10 before for that company. Security clearance for that level normally takes weeks even when accelerated, but it's been waived for someone who works for a company that the security services deem a threat to the country.

Do people really hate the EU that much that they'd rather sell out the country to China than to have any kind of links with Europe?

The first paragraph - completely valid. Not exactly a new problem - and one that has not been addressed for decades. We celebrate the Queen being present for 70 years. But she was present for this entire time. Perhaps she might not have been able to stop the rot - but as things stand it appears she hasn't even tried.

Second paragraph - aaaaaand you're back.

**Pannonian** · 02-08-2022, 19:32

Ian Paisley Jr: "Maybe the Conservative and Unionist Party is actually a nationalist party. An English nationalist Party."

Ian Paisley Jr, DUP MP, speaking on the lack of concern of the British PM for the divided Northern Ireland community.

**Furunculus** · 02-09-2022, 09:00

Originally Posted by Pannonian

Keir Starmer rescued by police after being mobbed by anti-vaxxers outside Parliament

This is the kind of politics the PM has brought to the UK. Despite people urging him not to use that attack line because it was false. How long will Johnson remain PM?

we can accept that it was a crass remark without needing to jump the shark in suggesting that he coordinated it with 'the fascist right', otherwise we'll have to blame Boris for the same thing happening to Gove'y last year:

https://twitter.com/PetroNicolaides/...14495979728897

**Pannonian** · 02-09-2022, 11:25

Originally Posted by Furunculus

we can accept that it was a crass remark without needing to jump the shark in suggesting that he coordinated it with 'the fascist right', otherwise we'll have to blame Boris for the same thing happening to Gove'y last year:

https://twitter.com/PetroNicolaides/...14495979728897

It's what insiders, including "Boris's Brain", said happened. Should we dismiss these primary sources?

**Pannonian** · 02-09-2022, 21:17

New Brexit Opportunities Minister is major shareholder in company that would be a major beneficiary of policies to be decided by the Brexit Opportunities Minister.

Cutting out the middle man. Don't need lobbyists if you're directly channelling money to yourself.

**Montmorency** · 02-10-2022, 05:12

Originally Posted by Pannonian

It's what insiders, including "Boris's Brain", said happened. Should we dismiss these primary sources?

I'm pretty sure the paeadothilliae meme is of American origin. Unfortunately our brain worms have contaminated the far-rights of the world over the past few years (e.g. the popularity of Q-Anon among the right in Germany and Japan.)