UK Politics Thread

[Montmorency]

It's what insiders, including "Boris's Brain", said happened. Should we dismiss these primary sources?

I'm pretty sure the paeadothilliae meme is of American origin. Unfortunately our brain worms have contaminated the far-rights of the world over the past few years (e.g. the popularity of Q-Anon among the right in Germany and Japan.)

[Pannonian]

I'm pretty sure the paeadothilliae meme is of American origin. Unfortunately our brain worms have contaminated the far-rights of the world over the past few years (e.g. the popularity of Q-Anon among the right in Germany and Japan.)

Our far rights used to hark back to the European far right: fascists, Nazis, and so on. It was easy to discredit these hankerers after a vision that we'd fought against. Nowadays, our far right looks to the American far right for inspiration. Their supporters dismiss any description of them as far right by pointing out that they are nothing like neo-fascists, neo-Nazis, and so on. No they're not. It's Q-Anon, Proud Boys, Trumpians, etc. that are their model.

[Furunculus]

This is really good - well worth a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g75OIszvopk

Complicated stuff - definately not reducable to a soundbite.

[Pannonian]

And the Tories' Attorney General (their top legal advisor) confirms that democracy trumps law. If the PM is found to have broken the law, we should recognise that democracy is the foundation of law, she says.

"I would just say that fundamental to the rule of law is also democracy: and I'm very proud to be supporting this prime minister, a prime minister who's honoured democracy by delivering Brexit."

So delivering Brexit absolves the PM from breaking the law if he's found to have broken it, says the Tories' top legal expert. I wonder if rory rolls his eyes whenever the Tories hold up Brexit as a thing to be proud of, whatever the question actually was. Or whether the mockery only pertains the other way.

[rory_20_uk]

And the Tories' Attorney General (their top legal advisor) confirms that democracy trumps law. If the PM is found to have broken the law, we should recognise that democracy is the foundation of law, she says.

"I would just say that fundamental to the rule of law is also democracy: and I'm very proud to be supporting this prime minister, a prime minister who's honoured democracy by delivering Brexit."

So delivering Brexit absolves the PM from breaking the law if he's found to have broken it, says the Tories' top legal expert. I wonder if rory rolls his eyes whenever the Tories hold up Brexit as a thing to be proud of, whatever the question actually was. Or whether the mockery only pertains the other way.

It is possible to share the same view as someone whilst viewing them with contempt. As I've said repeatedly, I was for Brexit but not for the Tories; equally there is nothing in the EU that would have stopped Boris doing what he's done.

Politicians failing to answer questions is hardly a new phenomenon, nor the senior lawyer making the law fit the demands of the PM - as Tony Blair's stooge showed us.

As we celebrate 70 years of the Queen passively allowing the rot to worsen I do wonder why living a long time is more highly thought of than trying to make the state fu ctuon better.

[Pannonian]

It is possible to share the same view as someone whilst viewing them with contempt. As I've said repeatedly, I was for Brexit but not for the Tories; equally there is nothing in the EU that would have stopped Boris doing what he's done.

Politicians failing to answer questions is hardly a new phenomenon, nor the senior lawyer making the law fit the demands of the PM - as Tony Blair's stooge showed us.

As we celebrate 70 years of the Queen passively allowing the rot to worsen I do wonder why living a long time is more highly thought of than trying to make the state fu ctuon better.

I didn't say that the EU would have stopped Johnson from doing what he was doing. I merely pointed out that you rolled your eyes when I said that, in the eyes of the Tories, Brexit justifies everything. I didn't make everything about Brexit, as you were implying. I was pointing to how the Tories think, and the AG Braverman demonstrated in her own words what I was saying. Law is trumped by the will of the people, which is founded on Brexit.

[rory_20_uk]

That is what one person said, not what a judge found. A soundbite, not a ruling.