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    In British PM race, a former Russian tycoon quietly wields influence

    Publicly, industrialist and Conservative Party donor Alexander Temerko presents himself as an opponent of Brexit and a dissident critic of Vladimir Putin. In conversations with this reporter, he’s voiced strong support for Boris Johnson’s bid to lead Britain out of the EU, praised senior Russian intelligence officials and spoken about his past work with the Kremlin.

    For almost a decade, Alexander Temerko, who forged a career at the top of the Russian arms industry and had connections at the highest levels of the Kremlin, has been an influential figure in British politics. He’s one of the Conservative Party’s major donors. He counts Boris Johnson, the frontrunner to be Britain’s next PM, among his friends.

    Temerko, born in what was then Soviet Ukraine, presents himself in public as an entrepreneur who opposes Britain’s departure from the European Union because it’s bad for his UK energy business, and as a dissident critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    But in more than half a dozen conversations with this reporter, conducted over the past three years as part of research for a book, he showed a different side of his career and views.

    Temerko revealed himself to be a supporter of Johnson’s bid to lead Britain out of the EU, describing the 2016 public vote to leave the bloc as a “revolution against bureaucracy.” He praised senior Russian security officials, including the current and former heads of the Federal Security Service (FSB), successor to the KGB, and proudly recalled his past work with Russia’s Defence Ministry.

    These new insights into Temerko’s private thinking about Johnson, Brexit and Russia come as the ruling Conservative Party is choosing its next leader, and as some British MPs are increasingly wary of possible Russian influence over British politics.
    How compromised is our government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Indeed, how compromised is it?
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    RT cites Nigel Farage as someone who doesn't lay the blame entirely at Russia's feet, but says that the west is partly to blame.

    What's that about funding and influence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    RT cites Nigel Farage as someone who doesn't lay the blame entirely at Russia's feet, but says that the west is partly to blame.

    What's that about funding and influence?
    who cares what farage thinks?

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    [UPDATE] - i keep asking what (foriegn) policy effect all that money sloshing around the british political system is having, and i have found it!

    not foriegn policy directly, but its the british anti-fracking dilberts:

    https://twitter.com/mattwridley/stat...63130719760389
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    Europe is blocking removing Russia from the SWIFT payment system so they can continue to buy Russian oil and gas.

    That is a far more important factor as currently the EU are directly paying for the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Europe is blocking removing Russia from the SWIFT payment system so they can continue to buy Russian oil and gas.

    That is a far more important factor as currently the EU are directly paying for the war.

    Not much we can directly do about them. We're not part of them. Farage is a UK citizen who's been extremely influential in our politics, and it's clear that he's in Russian pay. Forgive me if I want to highlight Russian agents amongst us.

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    Is it really worth it to pay a nobody like Farage? In my opinion, that's just his own initiative, a desperate attempt to become relevant again, by differentiating himself from the mainstream opinion and approaching the anti-establishment crowd. Obviously, sympathy towards Russia is a minority feeling in the United Kingdom, but for small fish like Farage, it might be better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.

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