UK Politics Thread

[rory_20_uk]

I think now he's just trying to up how much he can charge on the lecture circuit - they apparently pay May a ton.

How many records has this utter Legend broken?

[Pannonian]

I think now he's just trying to up how much he can charge on the lecture circuit - they apparently pay May a ton.

How many records has this utter Legend broken?

He's still 1 day behind Neville Chamberlain.

[Pannonian]

Michael Gove sacked for telling Johnson to step down.

[rory_20_uk]

Yes. British politicians are just slightly less craven than ones in the USA.

There are three ways Boris could be gone in our system as it stands in decreasing likelihood:

1. The 1922 committee change the rules and a new vote is taken. They're postponing due them having an election. So they might start the process in c. 2 weeks.
2. Boris just resigns - possibly when he starts to run out of bodies to do the jobs.
3. The Queen does something given the majority of the Commons, the Lords, the Provinces, the Public all want him gone.

Perhaps, just perhaps the next incumbent will get us away from Rule by Good Chaps.

[Montmorency]

The reason comparisons of Johnson to Trump were overblown is that there was always a very strong analogy of Johnson to George W. Bush.

[Pannonian]

The reason comparisons of Johnson to Trump were overblown is that there was always a very strong analogy of Johnson to George W. Bush.

The comparison with Trump was over his pathological untruthfulness and the willingness of his base to ignore reality and swallow everything he said. Also his willingness to ignore all custom and only follow rules that he was legally pinned down on.

[Montmorency]

pathological untruthfulness and the willingness of his base to ignore reality and swallow everything he said. Also his willingness to ignore all custom and only follow rules that he was legally pinned down on.

That was Bush, if you'll recall.

Both took public lying to new heights, but with a knowing chuckle. Both trolled the media and were known for malapropisms and public personas projecting a sort of 'folksy charm' beloved of base conservatives. Both were blue blood elites. Both made unlikely ascendancies to national prominence over more traditional party rivals. Both were infamous for stacking the government with corrupt, incompetent, and sinister characters, some of whom often had more of a role in managing the ship of state than the leader himself. Both ultimately became beleaguered by widespread public and copartisan disfavor amid scandals, policy foibles, and economic [let's say dislocation].

Just to name a few parallels.

We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.

[Pannonian]

Yes. British politicians are just slightly less craven than ones in the USA.

There are three ways Boris could be gone in our system as it stands in decreasing likelihood:

1. The 1922 committee change the rules and a new vote is taken. They're postponing due them having an election. So they might start the process in c. 2 weeks.
2. Boris just resigns - possibly when he starts to run out of bodies to do the jobs.
3. The Queen does something given the majority of the Commons, the Lords, the Provinces, the Public all want him gone.

Perhaps, just perhaps the next incumbent will get us away from Rule by Good Chaps.

He's already reached that stage. Commons committees have been cancelled because the relevant individuals aren't in government to answer questions. Backbenchers have refused to take on roles, leaving extant vacancies.

[rory_20_uk]

He's already reached that stage. Commons committees have been cancelled because the relevant individuals aren't in government to answer questions. Backbenchers have refused to take on roles, leaving extant vacancies.

Ministers only have to be from the Commons or the Lords by convention. He can choose anyone he wants.

Until he's forced out by balifs, the police or the army he'll stay. As why not?

[Pannonian]

Johnson finally agrees to resign, but will be in place until he's passed Theresa May (he drew level with Neville Chamberlain today).