Casual 9er Game Thread

[Sunbae]

i mean, i was thinking wolves would leave rask alive and i would have to spend 48 hours trying to fend off his tunnel to the point where i was trying to mentally prepare myself not to get too annoyed at him so lol

Can you tell me why you were so certain they were a villager? I know I was skeptical at points yesterday, especially once I thought Vulgard was a wolf and you two weren't w/w with the way they came at you while the wagons were you/vulgard.

[Hally]

Sorry, should have included slot position in the game state.



Prove it.






He was the wrong person at the wrong time to post that, but it's probably NAI. Not sure why it's below your notice but you shade me for correctly being skeptical of the thread consensus on Vulgard.



Is it Sun-Mont?

Currently everyone town-reads you except maybe me or Sunbae.

i don’t think that’s true

the only one who explicitly town read me and tried to stop my wagon D1 was zack

everyone else had me as nullish or wolfy afair

[Montmorency]

saying "we;re probably wrong" pre-flip is not like declaratively stating vulgard was THE VILLAGIEST IN THE GAME after the fact. that should be obvious and it seems disingenuous of you to suggest they're the same

It's not, since I was offering the most skepticism before the fact. It's just consistency.

[Zack]

i mean, i was thinking wolves would leave rask alive and i would have to spend 48 hours trying to fend off his tunnel to the point where i was trying to mentally prepare myself not to get too annoyed at him so lol

you were that confident he was v?

[Sunbae]

Vote: Mont

I might be a sucker but Hally's insistence that they were going to have to fend off rask for 48 hours and that they have no idea why they aren't an obvious villager is getting me.

If hally's a villager I think mont's approach to yesterdays eod knowing vulgard is going over is just trying to accrue credit and set up the villa thunderdome between me/hally the next day

[Zack]

It's not, since I was offering the most skepticism before the fact. It's just consistency.

I don't remember you really making a serious push to save him, or to even explain the read (and you still haven't in any real sense), then you come in today with a post like that and it immediately sets off alarm bells for me. You LOVE to white-knight villas like that as a wolf

[Sunbae]

I don't remember you really making a serious push to save him, or to even explain the read (and you still haven't in any real sense), then you come in today with a post like that and it immediately sets off alarm bells for me. You LOVE to white-knight villas like that as a wolf

ok yeah, im good with this

[Hally]

I am literally, on this page, spending my time asking people about you + explaining where I am at on you in detail including who I think you could be partnered with or who is trying to capitalize on things if you're town. With examples. I am also, quite clearly, factoring in your view of the gamestate in my own opinions and trying to see things from your pov. I don't understand why that's the scary frustrating part of what's happening. I've spent more time in this game on you than anyone else.

i just feel like you’re doing a lot of talking to others about me and not much to me directly

afair you’ve barely asked me anything or interacted with me, you’ve mostly been talking to zack and benneh

[Montmorency]

i don’t think that’s true

the only one who explicitly town read me and tried to stop my wagon D1 was zack

everyone else had me as nullish or wolfy afair

Ok, let me put it as no one else scum-reads you, as of SOD. I can't technically vouch for the players yet to appear, but the EOD status of Neb, Barto, and Ender AFAIK was away from SRing you. Ender for his part definitively defended you, beyond his fake vote.

Vote: Mont

I might be a sucker but Hally's insistence that they were going to have to fend off rask for 48 hours and that they have no idea why they aren't an obvious villager is getting me.

If hally's a villager I think mont's approach to yesterdays eod knowing vulgard is going over is just trying to accrue credit and set up the villa thunderdome between me/hally the next day

Vote: Sunbae

And you could be setting up chained MLs of Hally-Monty FTW. There's always a way out.

I don't remember you really making a serious push to save him, or to even explain the read (and you still haven't in any real sense), then you come in today with a post like that and it immediately sets off alarm bells for me.

How serious does it need to be? "Vulgard is 100% town and you'd better oust him over my dead body"? I laid out a pretty clear POE, even if the "reasons" will never be to your standard.

You LOVE to white-knight villas like that as a wolf

Remind me, genuinely.

[Hally]

Can you tell me why you were so certain they were a villager? I know I was skeptical at points yesterday, especially once I thought Vulgard was a wolf and you two weren't w/w with the way they came at you while the wagons were you/vulgard.

what about that post suggests i was so certain?

i did think rask was probably a villager (and i even thought that before vul’s flip though i had reservations)

it wasn’t a LOCK CLEAR read but yea, i thought he was v

[Hally]

Vote: Mont

I might be a sucker but Hally's insistence that they were going to have to fend off rask for 48 hours and that they have no idea why they aren't an obvious villager is getting me.

If hally's a villager I think mont's approach to yesterdays eod knowing vulgard is going over is just trying to accrue credit and set up the villa thunderdome between me/hally the next day

to clarify i don’t think i should be an obvious villager per se

i think it’s reasonable to have some doubts on me, i just think the amount of suspicion i’ve received has been wildly out of proportion relative to the quality of my play

[Hally]

[snip]

I appreciate Vulgard for his density.

[snip]

I know Vulgard is being POEd, but I have my feelings about that, and there's no one slotted other than you two for D1, and moreover you Tdome together so well, which even you must admit.

[snip]

i think these are the only times monty mentioned vul

am i missing something?

[Hally]

there’s a certain smugness and audacity to monty’s “vul was the most obvious villager itg” after making those two nothingburger posts about him D1 that i kinda wanna town read

but on the other hand, i don’t really buy he genuinely believes that or really anything else he’s said today

the supreme confidence that sunbae and i need to thunderdome feels like it’s just pulled from a hat

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Zack

Hi.

[EnderWiggin]

Could punt Monty too.

Raskol was obv town but idk why they get blasted like that, gonna check their ISO in a bit just in case.

[EnderWiggin]

This is my obligitory "I'm an obvious town please read me as obvious town uwu" post.

[EnderWiggin]

Benneh is maybe in blasting range too. Pending his arrival to thread.

Hally and Sunbae make up my "No blast zone" tbh and the whole "Thunderdome em" thing is shocking.

Who am I forgetting in this.

[EnderWiggin]

Oh yeah Barto exists. Can be no blast zone too for now.

[EnderWiggin]

NGL tho, I actually thought Vul was gonna flip wolf up until he didn't.

[EnderWiggin]

Actually who had the "I'm gonna look stupid but I townread this" sequence with Vul?

Because that probably should deserve some scrutiny.

[EnderWiggin]

My only concern with Ender is the whole claiming they iso'd a previous game of mine but I think that's mostly just me being confused by it than it being actually wolfy

Am I not allowed to ISO previous games when I think a specific game holds the keys to someone's alignment??????????????????????

[Hally]

i haven?t thought too deeply about this but off the dome i don?t really think zack makes much sense as a wolf with anyone except benneh

why do you wolf read him ender?

[Hally]

Actually who had the "I'm gonna look stupid but I townread this" sequence with Vul?

Because that probably should deserve some scrutiny.

i think it was rask

[EnderWiggin]

i think it was rask

Uhhhhhhhhhh.

Strike that cap'n

[EnderWiggin]

i haven?t thought too deeply about this but off the dome i don?t really think zack makes much sense as a wolf with anyone except benneh

why do you wolf read him ender?

Zack's poked at a lot of things but I never feel like he's trying hard to direct thread which implies he's comfortable with letting other people lead it which doesn't feel congruent with how town is dying right now.

Also just gut tells me he's a wolf. Which is pretty dumb.

Also I don't think Benneh is wolf with Monty and if Zack is town I'm townreading a wolf.

Not impossible but not what I'm thinking about now.

[EnderWiggin]

Also he fits really well into IAWY's famous "vibe tell" about wolves who are there but I can't remember much about their stances without going back and checking their ISO.

[EnderWiggin]

Compared to how I could tell you some of Monty's, yours, Sunbae's, etc stances off the top of my head because they stick with me.

[Hally]

i feel like what you said applies more to benneh than zack?

[EnderWiggin]

i feel like what you said applies more to benneh than zack?

I'm giving Benneh a chance to enter thread before I point guns that way tho.

[EnderWiggin]

Why do you think Zack's only partner is Benneh btw?