Casual december game

[Cape90]

I suppose I will tip toe my way through this so sorry if disjointed but at the end of these notes, I will rank said players on a town reads list.

When I get to Boq, I will answer Vul's question probably. But hint: it was kinda just a random comment that I'm not attached too, since I know my own post quality dropped at a certain point.

Oh, and when I get to Taffy, I will answer their question on "why am i not tunneling this game" or whatever.

Order = HIGHEST => LOWEST posters (as of when I am typing all this out)

ATPG - Long posts seem fine, they do not remind me of his wolf game. I get the vibe of him chilling in the thread. A lot of the nulltown or whatever reads do kind of lack in substance. Almost gives off town leader vibes at times, but not quite. I do not think 327 is a slam dunk though valid points are here. But saying this Amy post is Amy struggling to read Pizza is a pretty big stretch to me as to me, it reads as an NAI banter post that was meant to be more funny then analytical. I think some responses have been poor in response to Pizza. I am not completely won over by ATPG's reads, but I do townlean them and will ofc keep his EW/Amy/Vulgard/luvs suspicions in mind.

Vulgard - Oh... no. This just doesn't feel like town Vulgard, it doesn't even feel like mafia Vulgard to me. I think recent posting is like slightly better then it was with his rocky start, and yeah, I can definitely have a good ol' rocky start as town, trust me, this is not one of those games btw. But I do feel he responded poorly to any inclination of pressure of his slot. I also felt an odd ignoring the slot from a certain group of people on the slot when Pizza and I were suspecting them. Something I cannot say for Logic for instance, and ATPG wasn't even suspecting Logic at all, they hardly interacted from what I recall. Mindmeld on the Taffy comment about Taffy looking towny, especially around that point. How did I even glance over the fact that Logic was pushing on Visor for being wrong on him (it was 2am leave me alone), which is odd since later Logic omitted him from the list of people that could read him. I would say it probs spews Visor town if Logic wolf. I really don't think the whole spooge thing is AI, let's say I have a POE of you/ATPG/Logic, this doesnt mean all 3 of you are automatically paired, I really do not know how many times. Curious to see worst towngame. I guess trending up, maybe at a null now :D

I have to brb for a sec, k?

this is why im breaking it up XD

[Renata]

Not to mention early mindmeld with Ender.

Given my record lately I'm probably wrong on both.

[Visor]

If it comes down to it I'll prob go logic over ender fwiw

[Montmorency]

Was the Logic wagon Logic slipping again - hard to believe if Pizza's not voting there, though I haven't seen his commentary yet - or Logic TWTBAW again?

Ampharos is fine other than the stuff pizza brought up.

Summarize pls.

Talk to me about amy

Why?

I have skimmed through what I have missed. I should compile a coherent worldview though since I haven't done so. Then I will answer Vul's question since I don't exactly remember since I was townreading him

No, no, no, bad!

I dislike the "dramatism" take of this summary.

It's essentially correct while completely missing the point in favor of shading me.

I guess I agree.

Somebody do something scummy.

Recommends Logic-Ender dome.

Visor's treatment of Logic is iffy.

Amy's treatment and "I have too many townreads" is also iffy.

Both of those are notes regardless of Logic.

To put my cards on the table, my YOLO during the first 12 hours or so was Amp-Logic-Ender-Visor plus one secret sauce. Has that concept turned out to be the basic shape of the day somehow?

Unless I'm delirious I'm 99% sure someone made that "I think scumreads on Logic are right but not voting there." or something like that. I remember noting it for if I came back with a Logic townread later.

Maybe it was me, subconsciously projecting.

[Montmorency]

Vulgard - Oh... no. This just doesn't feel like town Vulgard, it doesn't even feel like mafia Vulgard to me. I think recent posting is like slightly better then it was with his rocky start, and yeah, I can definitely have a good ol' rocky start as town, trust me, this is not one of those games btw. But I do feel he responded poorly to any inclination of pressure of his slot. I also felt an odd ignoring the slot from a certain group of people on the slot when Pizza and I were suspecting them. Something I cannot say for Logic for instance, and ATPG wasn't even suspecting Logic at all, they hardly interacted from what I recall. Mindmeld on the Taffy comment about Taffy looking towny, especially around that point. How did I even glance over the fact that Logic was pushing on Visor for being wrong on him (it was 2am leave me alone), which is odd since later Logic omitted him from the list of people that could read him. I would say it probs spews Visor town if Logic wolf. I really don't think the whole spooge thing is AI, let's say I have a POE of you/ATPG/Logic, this doesnt mean all 3 of you are automatically paired, I really do not know how many times. Curious to see worst towngame. I guess trending up, maybe at a null now :D

I only vaguely remember Vulgard. We played together in Visor's mini, the game before this one in the Gameroom. He got destroyed D1 by some consensus that he was scummy, and then I became consensus for pointing out that he was the towniest player in the thread. Unfortunately I don't remember any meta for anyone anymore, let alone that D1. But people who like to read should read his D1 in that game for the solve I suppose.

[Csargo]

Summarize pls.

327

Ampharos's demeanor seems good to me, but content wise lacking essentially.

[Visor]

Can someone talk about boq and Amy a bit more please

Amy feels like she's been talking to the crowd. Lot

Boq just feels tonally weird, disconnected

[Visor]

vote: ampharos

For now

[Renata]

I only vaguely remember Vulgard. We played together in Visor's mini, the game before this one in the Gameroom. He got destroyed D1 by some consensus that he was scummy, and then I became consensus for pointing out that he was the towniest player in the thread. Unfortunately I don't remember any meta for anyone anymore, let alone that D1. But people who like to read should read his D1 in that game for the solve I suppose.

QFT (the meme)

[Renata]

vote: ampharos

For now

Hi Visor. You scumming this game?

[Montmorency]

Hi Visor. You scumming this game?

With or without Amy?

[Visor]

Hi Visor. You scumming this game?

Damn you're good

[Raskolnikov]

Logic (4): Amy, Ender, Vulgard, Renata
Ender (4): Ladd, Csargo, dyachei, Logic
Ampharos (2): Boquise, Visor
Visor (1): Montmo
HK (1): Taffy
Luv2spooge (1): HK
Renata (1): Kagemusha
Ladd (1): luv2spooge

[Visor]

I feel hamstrung a little

I'm obv never killing monty Kage or csargo (or Renata or ATPG) D1

Boq and Amy are new to the org and I kinda don't want to kill them

I don't super feel like cape and hk are wolves

Ender is shrug so far
Apooge seems alright

Who am I even left with lol

[Csargo]

Can someone talk about boq and Amy a bit more please

Amy feels like she's been talking to the crowd. Lot

Boq just feels tonally weird, disconnected

Ampharos seems like they're just going along for the ride imo. I don't feel like it's performative, but I have no idea if that's normal/bad/etc.

I've liked Boq's posts, I dont get the disconnected part. Just seemed like someone going through just giving thoughts yesterday.

[Visor]

Nothing to read ladd off and dya meh

Lol

[Logic]

vote: ampharos

For now

If anyone but visor made this vote, I'd probably hop off ender and hope Amy takes off.

[Visor]

Where do U stand on logic ender csar

[Renata]

With or without Amy?

I haven't read a word that Visor wrote aside from this page.

Amy can be a wolf, I guess.

[Logic]

Nothing to read ladd off and dya meh

Lol

I oddly completely agree with the former and must agree with the latter.

[Renata]

Commentary from Amy wrt "Logic re-enter" was, um, commentary I guess you could say.

[Cape90]

Sorry I am battling against 4pm which is an hour 4 me okay?

EnderWiggin - A lot of not wanting to fight with Pizza comments. Kinda shrug at latest posts. Really pushing against Logic with 398 being the I guess grand slam post of the whole saga. RE: 243, I didn't say that you had TMI at all, I was saying that Pizza was playing around your slot as if you had TMI, at least this is what I was thinking at the time. Didn't see this earlier oop. The whole situation with Ender making intentionally wolfy moves is interesting and could either mean the truth or it could mean w!him knows he messed up at least twice. I am guessing the first one has to do with the offer of me pocketing him? I am not convinced this is wolf as I think there at least are towny moments, but I guess nothing I outright melded with I suppose. Maybe even tempted to wolflean this, but that's depending on what I see from others.

Boquise - 724 - Towny thought process. I like Boq's thought about Amy hiding info from the thread. I guess to answer Vulgard's question, I guess the posts kinda looked like potshots to me, fairly simple posts, but I think 608 is towny looking back. 448 is believable given my history with boq. Boq opened a lot more like town!him then mafia!him tbh. I liked Boq's defense over Amy, even if Amy is wolf, it certainly didn't feel w/w, especially with how instead of fighting with me or whatever, he just townread me over my push on Amy which I feel like Boq is boxing themself in if amy = v. This is town tbh

Visor - Interesting shift off of Logic, though I have actually kind of started thinking the same about Logic actually. But to a minor degree, but from what I have skimmed. Also it ain't Boq m8. I like the thought process behind Logic push. I am not sure about how my post construction is wolfy, I am just kind of being myself. I kind of like the bluntness to Visor's posts. I kind of townread that quality about them, they are blunt, but have enough substance to back it up. I wonder if that cliffs post was gonna be literally anything more. I think this is town. Maybe posted so much by default since Visor was active pregame :p.

luvs2spooge - Seems to be enjoying the game, cool! Yeah I agree that Logic/ATPG could be paired, that feels a bit on the nose and I feel like ATPG would just distance himself a lot more from someone who appears to look like they are going over. I agree with literally everything luvs said about Vulgard, though Vul was scummy town in Gravity Falls game. I do not feel like Pizza has TMI this game, I didn't get those vibes on skim. IDK I just read luvs' posts and they just make sense to me. Town

[EnderWiggin]

Must

Resist

Scumleaning

Cape

For

Hedging.

(I've gone down this path before.)

[Csargo]

Where do U stand on logic ender csar

I wanna yeet both tbh

I just don't get the reasoning around you and me, it all feels flaily to me.

didn't like some early ender posts, i think most have already been brought up(atpg, stuff with hk, 20hrs vague whatever it was) and it seems pretty similar to the Zack(?) game, really bantery with some solid posts mixed in. A lot more intuition based on ender.

[EnderWiggin]

I wanna yeet both tbh

I just don't get the reasoning around you and me, it all feels flaily to me.

didn't like some early ender posts, i think most have already been brought up(atpg, stuff with hk, 20hrs vague whatever it was) and it seems pretty similar to the Zack(?) game, really bantery with some solid posts mixed in. A lot more intuition based on ender.

It's almost like that's my game regardless of alignment.

[Montmorency]

Must

Resist

Scumleaning

Cape

For

Hedging.

(I've gone down this path before.)

Cape now vs. Cape town in your scum game here (Visor's preceding Zack's)

[Csargo]

It's almost like that's my game regardless of alignment.

I had no idea

[EnderWiggin]

Cape now vs. Cape town in your scum game here (Visor's preceding Zack's)

Are you asking a comparison from me with regards to this?

[dyachei]

i wish I could explain why amy's tone is villagery to me in a way that makes sense to other people. bUt she's just kind of carefree here and i dont think she's putting pressure on herself to perform

[Montmorency]

Are you asking a comparison from me with regards to this?

I think it's safest not to post my full response, but sure.