Casual december game

[Boquise]

After reading today?s posts as well. Im gonnavote: Hollowkatt. You seem to be all over the place, so much that it seems like you are just being active for sake of activity. Can you share your top suspects and give reasoning for why?

my gut says that this is a wolfy post tbh
the whole scum reading someone for "active for the sake of being active" is kinda a cop-out. Idk this all feels like a manufactured hollow read
tho i saw now that you're Finnish.
So maybe it is just my blood that makes me wanna scum read here tbh

[EnderWiggin]

Actually I'm being dumb here. I shouldn't be the one reviewing this. @EnderWiggin Can you show me whatever progression you have on either Hollowkatt or Monty from day one (or today) that shows there's something more to you putting them in the PoE than simply being out of options?

I put them in my POE because they were in my "Process of Elimination."

On D1 I had "Logic" in big red letters in that pool. I didn't expand much outside that because tbh I convinced myself I'd caught it and I would have time to find out who his partners were tomorrow.

So no.

No there's no evidence.

I shouldn't have to tell you this.

Also I removed HK from my pool.

[Visor]

vote: ampharos

[Ampharos]

ok i'm caught up

trying to organize my thoughts

i'm catching myself falling into the trap of "this game is really hard if [other top wagon from d1] isn't a wolf" but i seem to not being the only one thinking that? with the obvious caveat that i'm also being thrown in that pile by others, but still

the towniest posters thus far today are renata, pizza, and visor, probably in that order

i'm not reevaluating my cape townread, i am reevaluating my vulgard townread but i quite frankly have no real idea what to do with him now, because a lot of his posts today have struck my brain at such a strange logical angle that i can't really make any sort of alignment-indicative sense of them

i think monty's d2 has been really towny and i kinda want someone who knows him better than i do (visor maybe?) to sanity check me on that because i feel slightly insane for saying it

ladd is town and i think my reason for it is kinda stupid. i don't think w!ladd would have any reason to bus w!ender when there are a fair few other suspects with momentum today (e.g. hypothetical v!vulgard, e.g. myself), and in a w!ladd v!ender world i don't think ladd would want to tie my alignment so directly to ender's and risk undermining his wolfread on me when ender flips

"amy surely that isn't the sole thing you're townreading ladd on" idk i think his d1 was a villagery sort of incorrect. i honestly don't think i'm a very good ladd reader, the one other game i've actually played with him he snowed me hard

can't say i came out of this catchup with any super explicit wolfreads but i think that's largely because i did a fairly surface level reading in order to prioritize not getting stuck in thread backlog hell, and i find that doing that kind of catchup tends to be a lot better at catching villagers than wolves for me

think my current gamestate perspective is, like. there's a big-ish pile of people that i was weakly townreading/nullreading yesterday, and i need to get a much better handle on them today, because i think the vast majority of wolves are in that pile. talking people like... dya boq hk kage. that's not a wolfreads list or even really the full suspects pool but i think i would be really, really surprised if there's not at least one in there.

i feel pretty decent about all my strong townreads and i'm not really gonna worry about that side of things unless the game gets hard (read: ender flips v LMAO)

i've also chosen to make a conscious effort to not care about people wolfreading me. if people have direct questions i'll ask em. otherwise i'll hope that i'm able to towntell better today, and if not, whatever

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

stay tuned for when this particular aspect of my strategy fails, because it's in my nature to get frustrated and uncomfortable when i'm wolfread, but i would really like for it to not be!

[Boquise]

I think I'd like you nail down what you're looking at when you say "all over the place".

I shall town read Renata tbh

[Visor]

my gut says that this is a wolfy post tbh
the whole scum reading someone for "active for the sake of being active" is kinda a cop-out. Idk this all feels like a manufactured hollow read
tho i saw now that you're Finnish.
So maybe it is just my blood that makes me wanna scum read here tbh

I can't disagree with you lol but I don't wanna kill Kage

[Ampharos]

vote: ampharos

good xpost...?

[Boquise]

ok i'm caught up

trying to organize my thoughts

i'm catching myself falling into the trap of "this game is really hard if [other top wagon from d1] isn't a wolf" but i seem to not being the only one thinking that? with the obvious caveat that i'm also being thrown in that pile by others, but still

the towniest posters thus far today are renata, pizza, and visor, probably in that order

i'm not reevaluating my cape townread, i am reevaluating my vulgard townread but i quite frankly have no real idea what to do with him now, because a lot of his posts today have struck my brain at such a strange logical angle that i can't really make any sort of alignment-indicative sense of them

i think monty's d2 has been really towny and i kinda want someone who knows him better than i do (visor maybe?) to sanity check me on that because i feel slightly insane for saying it

ladd is town and i think my reason for it is kinda stupid. i don't think w!ladd would have any reason to bus w!ender when there are a fair few other suspects with momentum today (e.g. hypothetical v!vulgard, e.g. myself), and in a w!ladd v!ender world i don't think ladd would want to tie my alignment so directly to ender's and risk undermining his wolfread on me when ender flips

"amy surely that isn't the sole thing you're townreading ladd on" idk i think his d1 was a villagery sort of incorrect. i honestly don't think i'm a very good ladd reader, the one other game i've actually played with him he snowed me hard

can't say i came out of this catchup with any super explicit wolfreads but i think that's largely because i did a fairly surface level reading in order to prioritize not getting stuck in thread backlog hell, and i find that doing that kind of catchup tends to be a lot better at catching villagers than wolves for me

think my current gamestate perspective is, like. there's a big-ish pile of people that i was weakly townreading/nullreading yesterday, and i need to get a much better handle on them today, because i think the vast majority of wolves are in that pile. talking people like... dya boq hk kage. that's not a wolfreads list or even really the full suspects pool but i think i would be really, really surprised if there's not at least one in there.

i feel pretty decent about all my strong townreads and i'm not really gonna worry about that side of things unless the game gets hard (read: ender flips v LMAO)

i've also chosen to make a conscious effort to not care about people wolfreading me. if people have direct questions i'll ask em. otherwise i'll hope that i'm able to towntell better today, and if not, whatever

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

stay tuned for when this particular aspect of my strategy fails, because it's in my nature to get frustrated and uncomfortable when i'm wolfread, but i would really like for it to not be!

PLAYER SALAD! Right here, smacking me in the face in the Mafia Championship.

[Ampharos]

ftr i agree that kage's vote is wolfy but i kinda got the impression that his big catchup wall done more in the sort of way out-of-phase villagers do it than out-of-phase wolves

rly just have no idea what to do with that slot

[Vulgard]

Boquise is town.

[EnderWiggin]

I will get to those thoughts when I have read up unless you wanna copy paste them to me and stuff tbh @EnderWiggin

You'll find it somewhere in early-ish D2. I'm literally sneaking on to post while at work and I shouldn't.

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Amy

Don't like that catchup post and Vul has stolen words from my mouth again.

[Boquise]

[QUOTE=Sloonei;3987755]

How to Make Player Salad: A Guide

Player Salad is the signature dish of The Syndicate. Those of you who have been following this tournament closely may have seen one of our head chefs, JaggedJimmyJay, teach the recipe to his fellow townies in Game 6. Player Salad is a dish which can sometimes confound people, but it's really quite simple. The basic recipe is this: "I could lynch Player X, Y, or Z. Maybe W." I am not one to rigorously argue for "mafia tells", but for whatever reason this one has an unusually high success rate. I suppose the above-mentioned configuration suggests that the player lacks conviction, and simultaneously feels a need to compensate for that lack of conviction by lumping several players together in an indistinguishable blend of suspicion: A salad, if you will. I will not say that it is 100% accurate or foolproof, but I give it some weight. So when I see the formula reproduced exactly by Ampharos:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

think my current gamestate perspective is, like. there's a big-ish pile of people that i was weakly townreading/nullreading yesterday, and i need to get a much better handle on them today, because i think the vast majority of wolves are in that pile. talking people like... dya boq hk kage. that's not a wolfreads list or even really the full suspects pool but i think i would be really, really surprised if there's not at least one in there.

I can give a more thorough read on Ampharos later. Right now it is 5:30 in the morning and I've just marathoned my way through this thread overnight so that I could be somewhat informed if I manage to also be awake at the deadline, which I hope to do. I urge people to look into Ampharos if I pass out momentarily. She is comfortably my top suspect after having read the thread in one sitting.

[Ampharos]

PLAYER SALAD! Right here, smacking me in the face in the Mafia Championship.

they call me the guy fieri of mafia

and brother, i don't think we're in flavortown anymore

[Vulgard]

[QUOTE=Boquise;2053837882]

How to Make Player Salad: A Guide

Player Salad is the signature dish of The Syndicate. Those of you who have been following this tournament closely may have seen one of our head chefs, JaggedJimmyJay, teach the recipe to his fellow townies in Game 6. Player Salad is a dish which can sometimes confound people, but it's really quite simple. The basic recipe is this: "I could lynch Player X, Y, or Z. Maybe W." I am not one to rigorously argue for "mafia tells", but for whatever reason this one has an unusually high success rate. I suppose the above-mentioned configuration suggests that the player lacks conviction, and simultaneously feels a need to compensate for that lack of conviction by lumping several players together in an indistinguishable blend of suspicion: A salad, if you will. I will not say that it is 100% accurate or foolproof, but I give it some weight. So when I see the formula reproduced exactly by Ampharos:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I can give a more thorough read on Ampharos later. Right now it is 5:30 in the morning and I've just marathoned my way through this thread overnight so that I could be somewhat informed if I manage to also be awake at the deadline, which I hope to do. I urge people to look into Ampharos if I pass out momentarily. She is comfortably my top suspect after having read the thread in one sitting.

The catchup post solidified my belief she's a wolf and I've been wolfsiding.

[Boquise]

i always miss out in removing parts of the quote, literally ruining my own joke
give me the clown pistol, i am not fit to meme anymore

[Boquise]

ftr i agree that kage's vote is wolfy but i kinda got the impression that his big catchup wall done more in the sort of way out-of-phase villagers do it than out-of-phase wolves

rly just have no idea what to do with that slot

thats nice tbh
if you are a wolf, kage wolf stonks rise
i should invest tbh

[Ampharos]

alright well if y'all are just gonna be condescending about it then why do i even fucking bother

[Boquise]

I can't disagree with you lol but I don't wanna kill Kage

it is ok
we can get kage last tbh

it is more fun telling someone you know they are a wolf but will let them live just to see them struggle tbh

[Boquise]

alright well if y'all are just gonna be condescending about it then why do i even fucking bother

look at my broken quote tbh

[dyachei]

boq i didnt think logic was textbook wolfy

I think vulgard had to say something because like...he was caught in a lie

[Boquise]

to be somewhat serious and give context

in my last syndicate game, i got the sloonei role. I was only to quote posts from Sloonei (mafia champion from syndicate, season 7) in his quali, then semi, and then final (from D1 to D3). During the first day, I decided to chronologically quote Sloonei from his qualifier, never go away from the post count, and when I saw a post from a player that I thought was a bit player salad-y, I decided to quote the salad stuff tbh

however it felt mean to bury a player because of 30% meme reasons, so I relented and went to bed.
Turns out that player was scum.

The heavenly light of glory keeps being just within my grasps... until I let it go tbh

[Ampharos]

look at my broken quote tbh

i read it

i still can't tell if you're actually accusing me of doing the player salad tell or if it was a flippant way to disengage for the night while maintaining a scumread on me

[Boquise]

boq i didnt think logic was textbook wolfy

I think vulgard had to say something because like...he was caught in a lie

the thread thought he was textbook wolfy, and he was wolf read through textbook wolf read reasons tbh
Maybe I am over-repping Vulgard here but... I think he'd go different routes in his explanation than just... being overtly and blatantly "oops shit" about it. Feels a bit too much of a Scooby Doo villain tbh

[Ampharos]

i would like to know what specifically vulgard and ender didn't like about my catchup, given that they arrived at that conclusion quite quickly after i posted it

as concisely as possible, if you would (yes this is a direct vulgard callout LOL)

[Boquise]

i read it

i still can't tell if you're actually accusing me of doing the player salad tell or if it was a flippant way to disengage for the night while maintaining a scumread on me

how about i drank a glass of wine and ready to


how about both?


tho
how does that even work with "disengage"?
You and I weren't engaging at that point. If we live in this world, I could just as well go to bed and sleep right away tbh instead of creating something. So you should be able to tell tbh, considering the latter doesn't make sense tbh

[Boquise]

i am going to wolfily disengage now tho tbh


i have some pokemon violet to play, or perhaps i will fall asleep with the novel I am currently reading, Anna Kavan's Ice. Fascinating thing tbh

toodaloo tbh

[Ampharos]

how about i drank a glass of wine and ready to


how about both?


tho
how does that even work with "disengage"?
You and I weren't engaging at that point. If we live in this world, I could just as well go to bed and sleep right away tbh instead of creating something. So you should be able to tell tbh, considering the latter doesn't make sense tbh

"disengage" here meaning "leave the thread, since you were talking about falling asleep"

was not talking about being engaged with me specifically

[EnderWiggin]

i would like to know what specifically vulgard and ender didn't like about my catchup, given that they arrived at that conclusion quite quickly after i posted it

as concisely as possible, if you would (yes this is a direct vulgard callout LOL)

Loosely agreeing with the world currently put out without putting much effort in because you know I'm going to flip town so you'll have to "review" anyway.

And you don't want to rock the current focus/pressure on me.

[Boquise]

"disengage" here meaning "leave the thread, since you were talking about falling asleep"

was not talking about being engaged with me specifically

idk tbh
like i dont see the reason why i would choose to do so by memeing at you

it isnt like i did a song and dance about it yesterday tbh
and theres nothing disengaging with my post to you, given i even kept responding to you (even when you were reacting negatively to the reactions). Doesnt fit the glove tbh