Casual december game

[EnderWiggin]

Why would you want to carry the legacy of someone who you think is accusing a bunch of townies?

Because you're a better solver than me when you latch onto wolves.

You and Luvs together are the reason I'm sitting here fully willing to review/yeet Vul because if there are two people I think are good solvers telling me I'm wrong on Vulgard then...

Well

I could very well be wrong on Vulgard.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You are allowed to be wrong Pizza.

I am not mad at you for that.

And I'm sorry if any of that came across as any of what you just said.

I shouldn't have come in here with any of that.

(Hells, I have already been terribly wrong on D1 so.)

Did you leave a reads list recently? I've been buried in D1.

[EnderWiggin]

Okay, I'm formally apologising for my tone coming in here.

I have been unfairly snarky because of how I felt being pushed by a majority of players.

I'm going to stop snarking and going to take your reads list and try to sort the info you've given to provide my viewpoints. ^^

[Askthepizzaguy]

Forewarning:

I need to sleep.

I'm shooting soon.

It will be between these three names:

Visorslash
Enderwiggin
Vulgard

No other names.

If you desire the death of a specific person on this list, tell me why theyre a wolf.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Vulgard

When you say you "want to flip" are you deliberately or accidentally misunderstanding how desperado works?

If you're town I literally can never flip you except by vote.

[EnderWiggin]

Did you leave a reads list recently? I've been buried in D1.

Not a full reads list.

But basic list of where I am:

Town Clear:
Pizza (Desperado claim)

Town:
Renata - Solving and their approach today has been good, alongside yesterday entrance felt uninformed
Cape - I have had a few doubt points but every time I read the ISO some of their points feel very good
Taffy - I just won against wolf!Taffy and there's a significant play here that is different, I would be very impressed if this is Taffy as wolf again

Townlean with doubts:
Hollowkatt - Possible white-knighting wolf but otherwise there's just not a lot of reasons for why he chose to hard defend me after sussing me.
Csargo - Not with Visor, but if Visor is town there's a few odd posts.

Null:
Kage - Honestly don't have a read here and even ISO'd them.
ladd - I want to wolfread them for their treatment of me but I know that's OMGUS so I'm reserving this slot until I have someone else read them for me.
Dyachei - I suck at reading Dya, as she sucks at reading me. We've had some fun bad reads of each other in the past and last time we played I tried pushing them hard when I was told they were obvious town. They were town. I was too.

Wolfread with doubts:
Boq - I outlined a case on him earlier which everyone ignored, but his actions after it felt very town. So, I'd tentatively put it further up above anyone else.
Amy - I had townreads on this person and then their catchup felt terrible. Not with Boq.

Wolfread through Osmosis:
Vulgard - They have put forward gamestate and read thoughts that match mine before I have multiple times. If they're wolf I have been wolfsiding hard, which is possible.

Wolf:
Visor - I don't like how they treated the Logic thing or me.
Monty - I think they're wolf. I actually forgot the exact reasons but if I read the ISO I'm pretty sure I'd find out why again.

[EnderWiggin]

I realise I forgot to say "them" at the Dya entry at first.

I'm sorry for that.

[EnderWiggin]

Forewarning:

I need to sleep.

I'm shooting soon.

It will be between these three names:

Visorslash
Enderwiggin
Vulgard

No other names.

If you desire the death of a specific person on this list, tell me why theyre a wolf.

I'm afraid of being wrong on Vulgard. So part of me wants to tell you to shoot there.

But I shall instead put together thoughts about Visor because if you asked me honestly I'd pick them in that pool of 3.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I realise I forgot to say "them" at the Dya entry at first.

I'm sorry for that.

Ender

If you are town

I want you to yeet Visorslash today.

Vote: Visorslash

[EnderWiggin]

Ender

If you are town

I want you to yeet Visorslash today.

Vote: Visorslash

Vote: Visorslash

I am not against this.

[Askthepizzaguy]

We who are about to die salute you.

It has been an honor and a privilege.

Here's the thing: I have a long.... long..... long.... entirely unbroken streak of hitting mafia with my shots.

I have never been a vigilante and not shot a wolf.

I also have a lot going on and wasnt able to fully read this game for comprehension.

And I'm tired. And my hosted game. And the AMA popped up just this week.

I was expecting a chill VT game.

The stress on me is unimaginable.

But I am about to have no more stress. Regardless of the outcome.

I either die a villain, or live long enough to see myself become a hero.

[Vulgard]

Don't know why you'd troll me like this as town instead of solving the game.

It's not even trolling, I have more or less the same wolfreads as you now. Or at least I did until you removed Amy.

You have been extremely antagonistic toward me the entire game and you still are now.

Renata solely because of that godawful post about Ender.
dyachei can be bussing Ender
Hollowkatt- independently wolfy
EnderWiggin- I think your leans list is killing nothing but villagers for a very long time
Visor- incredibly wolfy game so far
Vulgard- trolling me, gaslit me, insulted me, entire iso is scumtells.

I don't know what you're talking about.

[EnderWiggin]

I hope you didn't shoot who I think you shot.

Because I'll have to see you in DVC later if you did.

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

When you say you "want to flip" are you deliberately or accidentally misunderstanding how desperado works?

If you're town I literally can never flip you except by vote.

I was under the impression you weren't going to shoot me when I wrote that post.

[Vulgard]

I was expecting a chill VT game.

You are the ONLY reason it is not chill.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay, one last time then.

Vulgard, do you think Ender and Visor are wolfy?

I see you voting Ender, how about Visor?

[EnderWiggin]

Vul.

Pizza has not been the only one causing tension this game, I'll say that.

For one, I have been guilty of it a little.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I hope you didn't shoot who I think you shot.

Because I'll have to see you in DVC later if you did.

Havent shot yet.

[EnderWiggin]

Okay lol.

I was waiting for the flip.

[Vulgard]

Okay, one last time then.

Vulgard, do you think Ender and Visor are wolfy?

I see you voting Ender, how about Visor?

It's less that I personally think they're wolfy and more that I think you are likely to have a better handle on the game than me. Personally I would still go for Montmorency or Amy but neither push has garnered any traction at all and you seem to be moving away from Amy + townreading Montmorency so maybe those are wrong lol.

[Vulgard]

Vul.

Pizza has not been the only one causing tension this game, I'll say that.

For one, I have been guilty of it a little.

Oh, I meant that he made it non-chill for himself.

[EnderWiggin]

If Visor is wolf I might have been right about Amy originally.

Visor does go Amy over Me or Logic on D1.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok.

If I die here, can you both legacy yeet Visor into the sun please? Thanks.

[EnderWiggin]

Ok.

If I die here, can you both legacy yeet Visor into the sun please? Thanks.

Was already on that guv.

[Raskolnikov]

Ender (4): Renata, Vulgard, Ladd, Boquise
Visor (3): HK, ATPG, Ender
HK (2): Kagemusha, Taffy
Vulgard (1): Amy
Kagemusha (1): Cape
Amy (1): Visor

[Vulgard]

Ok.

If I die here, can you both legacy yeet Visor into the sun please? Thanks.

Not Ender? Are you townreading him rn?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Remember,

Montmorency
Cape90
Ampharos
Totally not Taffy
Kagemusha
Csargo - not with Katt
Boquise

Upon my death I am sending a desperado shot to one of these names.

That's actually something that really happens, is i give the second shot away. That's not a gambit or a bluff either.

It won't be revealed when I die, just my role name, but yes, there is absolutely a second desperado shot.

[Vulgard]

Why exactly do you have Amy as hard town now?

[EnderWiggin]

So that green pool contains a mafia if they don't claim the desperado shot.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not Ender? Are you townreading him rn?

Ive got them all in the bottom of my pile. Some may not be wolf wolf.

Like, if it's Visor, then it can still be ender. If it's Ender, if can still be visor. If it's one, it might not be the other.

I do not think my bottom three are all misses.

So when I miss on my bottom three shot, you eliminate the other two names.

Whoever you are. Visor, Ender, or Vulgard.

Is my wish, but, if youre town and I got your alignment wrong I can get others wrong.

Ready?