Casual december game

[Visor]

like they have responded to things fine, but when you look at their posts as a whole, what part of them are truly pushing towards a genuine solve?

[dyachei]

its more of an overall body of work in how they havent really been pushing things

i checked out their recent game on gitp out of curiousity and they pointed out the same thing there

(they were a wolf)

that they said plenty of reasonable things.... but didnt really progress the game forward a lot

i'll read through now

[dyachei]

he has fewer posts than I remembered

[Visor]

i believe they are a she? fwiw

[dyachei]

i believe they are a she? fwiw

oh my bad. FSR I thought they were a he

[dyachei]

oh my bad. FSR I thought they were a he

on MU discord they have it as any pronouns are fine

[Visor]

on MU discord they have it as any pronouns are fine

Ah no worries then, iirc on gitp they have a female gender symbol so that's what I was going off

[dyachei]

ok i see what you mean, they don't really try to get anyone over to their viewpoint. But I think most of their reads are fine? I agree with many of them. Doesn't really make taffy a wolf but I dont see them as clear villager now either

[Visor]

well its not just about getting ppl over to their viewpoint its that they dont move the game forward either

(and impo, their handling of me just a bit earlier is like oops sorry you're dead hehe, instead of actually trying to figure me out (n fact i dont think theyve genuinely tried to figure me out at all, just piggybacking off atpgs dumbass read (which if there is a god makes him go 0/3)

[Visor]

reads are whatever, who cares about reads

u care about genuine solving and they dont have it impo

[dyachei]

reads are whatever, who cares about reads

u care about genuine solving and they dont have it impo

i think their reads do show solving though. Just not hardcore solving. and they don't really try to push their viewpoints. If they were really convinced about a wolf read you'd think they would do more to push that viewpoint

[Visor]

what are your top 4 wolf reads then if i can pick ur brain some more

[dyachei]

what are your top 4 wolf reads then if i can pick ur brain some more

I'm most concerned about ender

HK is in that list
Renata
you

[Visor]

I'm most concerned about ender

HK is in that list
Renata
you

okay talk to me about renata and hk if you can

renata hasnt been brought up much, what have you seen there

[dyachei]

okay talk to me about renata and hk if you can

renata hasnt been brought up much, what have you seen there

I think renata is grasping at relatively little things and pushing them as bigger than they are

HK isn't really pushing his reads either. He's got a pretty small thread presence and I find that wolfy for him

[Visor]

I think renata is grasping at relatively little things and pushing them as bigger than they are

HK isn't really pushing his reads either. He's got a pretty small thread presence and I find that wolfy for him

can you give some examples for renata things?

i tend to agree on Hkatt - ive found his pushes a little lacklustre - i dont necessarily care that he has a small thread presence, he just doesnt have..... the same ticker in his posts that i just saw when we were villaging together in a casual game

[dyachei]

can you give some examples for renata things?

i tend to agree on Hkatt - ive found his pushes a little lacklustre - i dont necessarily care that he has a small thread presence, he just doesnt have..... the same ticker in his posts that i just saw when we were villaging together in a casual game

well like that one post from vulgard she found wolfy. She went on and on about it being so wolfy without considering other options at all

[Visor]

do you think renatas nittery is more playstyle indicative or wolf indicative?

[Visor]

what do u think of csargo and kage?

(and csargos push of kage and kages nonexistent response to it?)

[dyachei]

do you think renatas nittery is more playstyle indicative or wolf indicative?

that's the part idk. I dont remember a lot about her gameplay.

but like, i'm pretty sure pizza checked vulgard. so that would make her main push wrong

[dyachei]

what do u think of csargo and kage?

(and csargos push of kage and kages nonexistent response to it?)

i dont know kage at all so im not really sure. they dont have thread presence though

csargo seems like he's town

[Visor]

i dont know kage at all so im not really sure. they dont have thread presence though

csargo seems like he's town

talk to me a bit more about csargo

and id actually appreciate your thoughts on vulgard and ender too - ive found both of them ahrd to parse this game

[dyachei]

talk to me a bit more about csargo

and id actually appreciate your thoughts on vulgard and ender too - ive found both of them ahrd to parse this game

I'm really bad at reading ender but I think he's been pretty defensive this game. I also think that his reads aren't great (other than his hk wolf read)

vulgard I think I get to a certain degree and the only thing I haven't liked from him was that lie to get pizza off his back that Renata pointed out. I posted some posts from him earlier that I think show his towniness. I also think he was pizza's likely check

[Visor]

why do you think he was pizzas check?

(to me it seemed like ender was the shot tbh)

i agree ender has been defensive this game - do you feel that is something hes likely to step into as a wolf?

why do reads seems to matter a lot to you atm?

[Visor]

boq has had a different energy this game, whats your take on it?

[dyachei]

why do you think he was pizzas check?

(to me it seemed like ender was the shot tbh)

i agree ender has been defensive this game - do you feel that is something hes likely to step into as a wolf?

why do reads seems to matter a lot to you atm?

reads matter to me because I think people are pushing villagers a lot (like amy)

ender can be defensive as both alignments. I just think there's more of it than warranted currently

I think pizza wanted you as the elim so you're not likely to be the target. But if you look at his posts right before his shot, he spends a lot of time talking about how wolfy vulgard is. And that he wants him flipped. He barely talked about ender iirc

[dyachei]

boq has had a different energy this game, whats your take on it?

boq seems to be solving so I think he's probably town. like he's actually showing his thought process in the thread

[Visor]

reads matter to me because I think people are pushing villagers a lot (like amy)

ender can be defensive as both alignments. I just think there's more of it than warranted currently

I think pizza wanted you as the elim so you're not likely to be the target. But if you look at his posts right before his shot, he spends a lot of time talking about how wolfy vulgard is. And that he wants him flipped. He barely talked about ender iirc

i agree i dont think im the target

but that means pizza is at best 1/3

i think its close to a game losing poe

i could be convinced vulgard is the shot tbf

but i also think its possible atpg just had a bad game cause he misread stuff cause of self applied pressure

in the world where ender, vulgard and myself are all villagers, where would you go next? (please indulge me in this hypothetical - what would be your top 4 suspects after that, who would stand otu to you from pushing us as a grouping?)

[Visor]

in that world, to me, ladd and taffy stand out massively

[dyachei]

i agree i dont think im the target

but that means pizza is at best 1/3

i think its close to a game losing poe

i could be convinced vulgard is the shot tbf

but i also think its possible atpg just had a bad game cause he misread stuff cause of self applied pressure

in the world where ender, vulgard and myself are all villagers, where would you go next? (please indulge me in this hypothetical - what would be your top 4 suspects after that, who would stand otu to you from pushing us as a grouping?)

renata
hk
kage
taffy