Casual december game

[Renata]

well like that one post from vulgard she found wolfy. She went on and on about it being so wolfy without considering other options at all

This is completely inaccurate. I acknowledged your interpretation likely being the correct one almost immediately, and my other pushes towards Vulgard were based on other parts of their ISO that I had noted on my day one re-read.

Go back and look. You cannot back this up.

@dyachei

This is an actual request for you to do this.

[Visor]

vulgard ,all three of u me and ender are v

where are you looking to

who is suspect in this world to you

can you pelase talk to me about ladd and taffy?

[ladd]

thats kind of u to say

Apparently i cant use mention 50% of the time. @Askthepizzaguy it was you who i wanted to mention.

looooooooooooool

thx for the laughs

[Csargo]

to save my ass (and hopefully take a look at taffy and ladd and figure out we're marching to the death of at least two villagers)

I'll look at taffy and ladd again, my impression was they're both town. Feel like the stuff you said about taffy could easily be v stuff to me. Ladd was just feelies, felt good about their posting as they were catching up.

Who are the villagers we're marching to the death of? You and Ender?

[Renata]

that's the part idk. I dont remember a lot about her gameplay.

but like, i'm pretty sure pizza checked vulgard. so that would make her main push wrong

What is this based on? He made some pointed posts toward Ender. Nothing in that last little bit about Vulgard unless you can point out something I missed.

[Visor]

looooooooooooool

thx for the laughs

lol at the time i was like, thats a strange thing to say to me when we ahvent interacted that much

but i was like oh guess hes jsut being nice

turns out im an idiot lmao

I'll look at taffy and ladd again, my impression was they're both town. Feel like the stuff you said about taffy could easily be v stuff to me. Ladd was just feelies, felt good about their posting as they were catching up.

Who are the villagers we're marching to the death of? You and Ender?

me and at least one of the blokes in the death pool of ender vulgard

cmon man i need more than just feel good, explain why taffy could easily be v, explain to me why it doesnt stand out to you?

taffy was in the 10er recent game here, caleld me socially awkward d1 and pushed hard for their beliefs as v, they have approximately zero of that in this game

[dyachei]

What is this based on? He made some pointed posts toward Ender. Nothing in that last little bit about Vulgard unless you can point out something I missed.

keep reading

[Vulgard]

vulgard ,all three of u me and ender are v

where are you looking to

who is suspect in this world to you

can you pelase talk to me about ladd and taffy?

I think Amy is likely a wolf in that world. Amy's approach to Ender is an approach of not trying to solve him at all while still expecting him to flip. It's also possible that ladd is a wolf by association in that world because Amy's townread on him is extremely contrived. I had a V/V read on you/ladd and I've gone back and forth on who among you was actually town and who wasn't but rn I'd just like to flip Amy and go from there I think.

I also haven't really dropped my suspicion on Monty but that one feels like a less likely hit. Kagemusha I feel like is off in his own world, his posting looked a bit like busywork but I admittedly haven't given it a very close look.

Taffy I honestly had a very likely villager, someone who would need to have a sick wolfgame in order to be a wolf. Which could be possible and I could be getting snowed. But her and Renata's posts I've found sharp and pointed and that's the type of thing wolves usually don't have. I also feel like these two are genuinely pursuing their reads, most importantly Taffy's push on HK and Renata's suspicion of me (when she correctly figured out I was lying).

[ladd]

taffy is a wolf because there is no attitude, just treading water, no push, no sassitude, just posting reasonable sounding thinsg while not moving the game state forward

this seems completely opposite to how they seem to be posting

afaict they have plenty of attitude/sassiness

ladd knew it was mac and shot him n1, his attitude to the logic push and then to me when i posted about it being bad and then saying i wasnt paranoid is wofly and his posts are filled with over explanations

i dont think you actually believe this. This is the least I have explained myself as either alignment in a while and i am surprised people havent asked me more questions tbh

where have i been over -explainy?

hollowkatt is a wolf cause mac sucks donkey balls and always gets reads like tha twrong and hkatt hasnt hit the towny explanation standards i like from him

did you read the sorcerer game you hosted? i don't think he is posting differently from there

(but i concede he may be a wolf)

dya is a wolf for the lack of game progression and focusin gon the logic read LOL (and the amy white knight is eh)

maybe if it was 2 years ago but their meta changed a ton



i dont really like any of these reads tbh

are you clearing ender just cause maybe he got shot?

[Visor]

i dont even know why people actually think ender is a wolf

vulgard i get why ppl wolfread, ppl just called ender a wolf and im just like ???

[Renata]

This is a spectacularly wolfy post and I feel appropriately stupid. Since Visor is actively looking for a reason to get me scumread and didn't notice the mistake here I'm going to confbias that into doubling down on him being a wolf. And also that there's one in Ender/Vulgard but Asks just shot the wrong one.

To be honest I wasn't going to say anything about that post either and I'm not 100% sure what mistake it is that you are referring to. I am absolute shit at mechanics however.

[Vulgard]

This is hard because I think you are both posting reasonably but I also feel like there's a wolf between you. Never two, though.

[ladd]

Vote: totally not taffy


cmon you nutters

If it was a fake claim I called it in my private thread.

sometimes ww is an easy game and you get to clear people for free



and even besides that taffy is the villageriest player itg IMO

i can villa case them if needed but they'd be my 1 do not ever kill

[Visor]

also the fact that yall jus tpivoted to ender so effortlessly after the logic wagon dissolved a touch skeeved me out, like switching from villa to villa

perhaps thats just paranoia speaking

[Visor]

sometimes ww is an easy game and you get to clear people for free



and even besides that taffy is the villageriest player itg IMO

i can villa case them if needed but they'd be my 1 do not ever kill

taffy can beleive it is a fake claim as a wolf!

[dyachei]

i dont even know why people actually think ender is a wolf

vulgard i get why ppl wolfread, ppl just called ender a wolf and im just like ???

the last game i played with him (last month) he pushed his thoughts and tried to get people to elim with him. he was absolutely convinced his reads were right. he's not doing that here

[Visor]

i will say ender thinking the team is me amy and monty is weird

but idk bronanas

[Totally not Taffy]

how convinced are you that i am a wolf taffy?

can you lay it all out in detail please?

Right now, sufficiently convinced that if I had a suicide vest you'd be the one coming with me.

Everything you've done today is what I expect a wolf to do. You're trying to undermine the people wolfreading you, to get people to engage with you and you alone so town isn't communicating with eachother, swell the thread by making jokes and meaningless posts, appealing to your friends hoping they'll keep you around out of friendship. Also:

200% agree I am very frustrated rn

(for the memes )

Logic used his remaining time to make one case on his strongest wolfread hoping town would follow him after the flip. Could I ask you to do the same?

Fwiw I think HK is doing fine

LOCK CLEAR:
1. Visor

HOPEFULLY CLEAR:
10. Cape90

IS A CHANGED MAN
17. Kagemusha

PROBABLY SHOT
9. EnderWiggin

GET YOUR CLOWN SHOES ON PIZZA
12. Vulgard

IDKWHATIMDOINGDOG.JPG
5. Ampharos
13. Boquise

YALL NEED TO STEP UP 2: THE STREETS
2. Csargo
4. Montmorency

KILL DAY BEFORE F9 (hopefully villa)
15. Renata

THE SECRET IS YALL WRONG
11. Ladd
16. Totally not Taffy
7. dyachei
3. Hollowkatt

hollowkatt is a wolf cause mac sucks donkey balls and always gets reads like tha twrong and hkatt hasnt hit the towny explanation standards i like from him

What has Hollowkatt done today to go from fine to your strongest wolfread? Can you lay it out in detail please?

[dyachei]

i keep forgetting monty is in the game. visor whats your read on him and why?

[Renata]

i mean i dont even get the logic. if you were a wolf pushing taffy (who in this scenario would be a villager) wouldn't you be more likely to call out a wolfy post by them?

This whole conversation feels like the two of you got together in wolf chat and decided to stage a push on somebody to save Visor's butt from getting crisped.

[dyachei]

This whole conversation feels like the two of you got together in wolf chat and decided to stage a push on somebody to save Visor's butt from getting crisped.

lol

[Totally not Taffy]

it is interesting to me that taffy had nothing to say on anythin gelse that happened in the meantime except to talk about her own post

just feeling like they're a wolf bronana

This is what I mean with "everything a wolf would do". You asked me a question that you knew would take time to answer, and then use the fact that I need time to answer it to accuse me of popping in.

[dyachei]

i dont think you really believe that

also who the fuck would actually do that

[ladd]

ive done that song and dance plenty of times as a villa, and i dont think ladd is really trying to read me at that point, esp with pizza putting me in his poe, hes just seems likes hes going to hem and haw and then kill me because he 'just can't get there', when we've both managed to get there on each other in difficult circumstances in the past and i dont think im really trapped in wolf meta or anything

when? i genuinely dont remember this ever being a thing

plus the post about his dunk on ender reminds me of his posting in one of his recent wolf games when he came in with an overwritten case on a player. just feels like hes playing up a wolf agenda, but i could be wrong, iw ould like some more face time with him to get a better read of where hes at

which game?

(i mean i am sure you can find one where i did it but it's a pretty uncharitable interpretation of my post considering that you should know i make posts like that plenty as villa too)


dunno friendo, your read on me really dosn't look real

[ladd]

taffy can beleive it is a fake claim as a wolf!

yea but thats not the part i meant

[ladd]

This whole conversation feels like the two of you got together in wolf chat and decided to stage a push on somebody to save Visor's butt from getting crisped.

villagery post

(but i disagree on dya, they look villagery in the exchange imo)

[Visor]

Right now, sufficiently convinced that if I had a suicide vest you'd be the one coming with me.

Everything you've done today is what I expect a wolf to do. You're trying to undermine the people wolfreading you, to get people to engage with you and you alone so town isn't communicating with eachother, swell the thread by making jokes and meaningless posts, appealing to your friends hoping they'll keep you around out of friendship. Also:



(for the memes )

Logic used his remaining time to make one case on his strongest wolfread hoping town would follow him after the flip. Could I ask you to do the same?





What has Hollowkatt done today to go from fine to your strongest wolfread? Can you lay it out in detail please?

are none of the things im doing today things that villagers would do?

no, i am not makign some dumbass case like logic

(and id like to say i am not appealing to my friends to keep me out of friendship im appealing to them to see my villageriness and act accordingly - id appreciate if you didnt accuse me of some shady gamesmanship there pal

hkatt is more of a nebulous read thats just kinda fell over time as i havent felt the consider curiosity from him that i saw in our recent game together

in part its also just a reaction to the consensus being very wrong and trying to fight against it with reads that are against the grain - i know im a villager and one of ender/vulgard at least is a villager, so people pushing in there feels very wolfy to me, so i am trying to push back and get people to think outside the simplest course of action (cause it is wrong)

i keep forgetting monty is in the game. visor whats your read on him and why?

normally the weirder monty is, the more likely he is a villager

he has been... less weird, doesnt have his off the wall pushes, doesnt have his soulread target that he pushes for with ominous wording - thats what stands out to me from him

really interested to see what he comes up with later

[Visor]

This is what I mean with "everything a wolf would do". You asked me a question that you knew would take time to answer, and then use the fact that I need time to answer it to accuse me of popping in.

damn you're good

got me nailed chief

LOL

[ladd]

i dont even know why people actually think ender is a wolf

vulgard i get why ppl wolfread, ppl just called ender a wolf and im just like ???

i cased him (and you even used my case on ender to say i a wolfy) and i am fairly sure i am not the only who did?

plenty of people pointed out problems with his posts

do you really not understand the wolfread on him

[Visor]

i cased him (and you even used my case on ender to say i a wolfy) and i am fairly sure i am not the only who did?

plenty of people pointed out problems with his posts

do you really not understand the wolfread on him

no.