Casual december game

[Kagemusha]

@hollowkatt

Looking at yesterday. Little has changed, but Taffy was killed whom i had in the town side of things.I am ready to put Monty into the town based on the effort he made yesterday, which seems legit, while his conclusions were wrong.

Town


Ender, HK


townish


Boque, Monty


neutral


Amy


scummish


Csargo

My vote is the same as yesterday. Csargo is flying under the radar. Leaving reasoning for his votes to other people, like Monty yesterday. You should look at him closer and draw the right conclusions. Vote: Csargo

[Montmorency]

Homie, you know you've gotta make a case if you want any votes on Csargo today.

See y'all D6 then.

[EnderWiggin]

I am actually really frustrated I let Taffy go over after noting the difference in how Dya treated Ladd.

I am sick but will be around and try to solve at some point in next 12 hours

[Csargo]

I'm confident in my ender read. I also think Boq is town. Monty I think is also town. I'm confident enough in those three that I'm not re-evaluating them today. That's a job for tomorrow HK if I'm alive.

That leaves csargo, amy, and kage. Of those three the easiest wagon is Amy. I want to avoid taking easy wagons unless they're just the right wagon and I still find it hard to believe a team of Ladd/Dya/Amy/X plays the early game the way they did.

Kage is the most enigmatic I think. I know they're sus on me, or were, for several days but other than that I have no idea where they stand.
Csargo is going to be the one with the most thread presence to be reading, but do they pair with ladd and dya in meaningful ways.

We have time, lets use it wisely and get people on the record.
@Csargo @Kagemusha @Ampharos can you provide something in the way of a solve so that we know where you're at? Doesn't need to be super fleshed out, names are fine and I can ask about those names when I get them.

Kage/Amy

[EnderWiggin]

There's a weak read I could make where there's only 1 wolf in Kage/Csargo/Amy.

Vote: Amy

For now.

[EnderWiggin]

Actually no.

Vote: Boq

[EnderWiggin]

I have been sick and really wish I had more time to poke this game ><

I think Boq makes more sense in worlds than Amy.

I think the Renata kill on level 1 points to Boq or Monty because Amy/Kage as a team probably never kill Renata when she'd push Boq.

I think Monty is town so low level read says Boq is the wolf.

[EnderWiggin]

I will feel really dumb if I've townread Csargo now but I keep bouncing back to Csargo being town.

[Raskolnikov]

Amy (2): Monty, Boquise
Kagemusha (1): Csargo
Boquise (1): Ender

EOD in 10 hours.

[Raskolnikov]

Amy (2): Monty, Boquise
Kagemusha (1): Csargo
Boquise (1): Ender
Csargo (1): Kagemusha

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt

Looking at yesterday. Little has changed, but Taffy was killed whom i had in the town side of things.I am ready to put Monty into the town based on the effort he made yesterday, which seems legit, while his conclusions were wrong.

Town


Ender, HK


townish


Boque, Monty


neutral


Amy


scummish


Csargo

My vote is the same as yesterday. Csargo is flying under the radar. Leaving reasoning for his votes to other people, like Monty yesterday. You should look at him closer and draw the right conclusions. Vote: Csargo

thanks, I appreciate it. Csargo is the person I'm reading the most today, so far I'm not seeing anything leaping out as omg wolf but if what you're saying is true it wouldn't leap.

[hollowkatt]

Kage/Amy

Do you think Amy says about Dya what Amy did early in the game re pocketing and how Dya was treating Amy if they are paired? I think that's the biggest thing turning me off of that solve.

[hollowkatt]

I have been sick and really wish I had more time to poke this game ><

I think Boq makes more sense in worlds than Amy.

I think the Renata kill on level 1 points to Boq or Monty because Amy/Kage as a team probably never kill Renata when she'd push Boq.

I think Monty is town so low level read says Boq is the wolf.

ender
monty
hk

I'm most confident there. By association Amy seems good b/c of the whole ladd/dya interactions with amy and the pocketing comment. I wish Amy had provided more before they'd bailed. I'm kinda torn on the one hand remove potential mistake from lylo today seems smart and if they are wolf that's great but if we're going to chop amy on flimsy stuff today is the only day we can.

Csargo I have never had a problem with and thought they had townie moments.
Kage I can see their world view, kinda. Except csargo I think.

I have to think about Boq as well. I have seen him as town since we engaged together and don't think I'm wrong there either but if I'm not wrong on boq then the last two must be within csargo, amy, kage.

Thoughts?

[Csargo]

Do you think Amy says about Dya what Amy did early in the game re pocketing and how Dya was treating Amy if they are paired? I think that's the biggest thing turning me off of that solve.

I don't know enough about either of them to say whether their actions early game make them unpaired. I'd have to go look back at Monty's post.

I tr everyone else in the game, and I'm a bit ill, so I don't want to deep dive into it.

Kage's only engaged the game on the surface, and in the later phases with decreased volume that shouldn't be happening imo.

[hollowkatt]

ugh everyone is sick or just not posting and honestly I think it's b/c wolves are happy with the status quo
I know we're running out of time and I know that sleep just delays todays decision anyways which is great b/c kiddo just got sick. I'll try to put some work in at least to leave a legacy or whatever before EOD

[Boquise]

I have been sick and really wish I had more time to poke this game ><

I think Boq makes more sense in worlds than Amy.

I think the Renata kill on level 1 points to Boq or Monty because Amy/Kage as a team probably never kill Renata when she'd push Boq.

I think Monty is town so low level read says Boq is the wolf.

it is true that amy/kage might be unlikely to make the renata kill, but since i am town how should i view the game? Monty/Kage? I think monty is town though

[hollowkatt]

it is true that amy/kage might be unlikely to make the renata kill, but since i am town how should i view the game? Monty/Kage? I think monty is town though

why not consider csargo? Ender said he's got a reason to call csargo town, if you've got one what is yours?

[Boquise]

ugh everyone is sick or just not posting and honestly I think it's b/c wolves are happy with the status quo
I know we're running out of time and I know that sleep just delays todays decision anyways which is great b/c kiddo just got sick. I'll try to put some work in at least to leave a legacy or whatever before EOD

i am sorry
I am having a big burnout atm and I keep coming back to the same solve

ftr, i think it is good that ender is voting me since the votes are so close. i know i am town and considering that no one is jumping in to vote me with ender, to tie it with amy, makes me consider that i am wrong about amy.

[Boquise]

why not consider csargo? Ender said he's got a reason to call csargo town, if you've got one what is yours?

the fact that if so all three wolves would be on the same wagon when the wagons were town vs town vs amy tbh

[Boquise]

but considering the whole game, i have the least reasons to town read amy so i will go with that
i dont think it is good for the game state if we keep having this dynamic in a potential lylo

[Boquise]

like if i am wrong about amy, it would mean the wolves are within kage/monty/csargo
i think it is the incorrect play to vote for monty today

i wont be able to be here for eod but if my wagon start growing around the last hour, it means that a scum has been voted and they are trying to pull the wagon away
if the wagons are stagnant, i think that means amy is town? However if she is wolf, wolves have one less vote to play with due to her being away.

[hollowkatt]

like if i am wrong about amy, it would mean the wolves are within kage/monty/csargo
i think it is the incorrect play to vote for monty today

i wont be able to be here for eod but if my wagon start growing around the last hour, it means that a scum has been voted and they are trying to pull the wagon away
if the wagons are stagnant, i think that means amy is town? However if she is wolf, wolves have one less vote to play with due to her being away.

basically yeah. I also don't think monty is the solve, I'm reading csargo currently.

[Boquise]

basically yeah. I also don't think monty is the solve, I'm reading csargo currently.

what kinda alarms me is that csargo has basically not said anything to me nor has he really talked about me. Idk if thats a wolf thing or town thing, but it is weird considering i strongly town cleared him yesterday

[hollowkatt]

Csargo (2): Amy, Kage
Taffy (4): Monty, Csargo, Boq, Renata
Renata (2): Taffy, Ender
Unvoted: HK

I made a votecount for today because I don't know what the votes are and we got 30m

Whether as ultimate potato townies or ultimate slanker Mafia, kage-Amp will probably doom us at the rate we're going.

hmmm

ok, taffy town renata town

renata and taffy dead so remove them from the wagons
taffy: monty, csargo, boq
renata: ender

amy kage on csargo

current votes:

Csargo (2): Amy, Kage
Taffy (4): Monty, Csargo, Boq, Renata
Renata (2): Taffy, Ender
Unvoted: HK

I made a votecount for today because I don't know what the votes are and we got 30m

Whether as ultimate potato townies or ultimate slanker Mafia, kage-Amp will probably doom us at the rate we're going.

Amy (2): Monty, Boquise
Kagemusha (1): Csargo
Boquise (1): Ender
Csargo (1): Kagemusha

Csargo (2): Amy, Kage
Taffy (4): Monty, Csargo, Boq, Renata
Renata (2): Taffy, Ender
Unvoted: HK

I made a votecount for today because I don't know what the votes are and we got 30m

Whether as ultimate potato townies or ultimate slanker Mafia, kage-Amp will probably doom us at the rate we're going.

Taffy (5): Monty, Csargo, Boquise, Renata, Taffy
Csargo (3): Amy, Kagemusha, Ender
Renata (1): Taffy
Kagemusha (1): HK

Day 4 has ended at 7PM est.

vote: csargo

your voting record is atrocious and I can't justify it

[Boquise]

Taffy (5): Monty, Csargo, Boquise, Renata, Taffy
Csargo (3): Amy, Kagemusha, Ender
Renata (1): Taffy
Kagemusha (1): HK

Day 4 has ended at 7PM est.

csargo took it really cool for being top wagon next to Taffy
I wish Taffy had not self-voted.

Kage is still voting Csargo and it seems to be his only wolf read this game.
Amy voting Csargo too hm

[Boquise]

vote csargo

lets see if stuff happens

[Boquise]

idk man

[Boquise]

Vote Amy

Ultimately, I think it is easier to solve Csargo than Amy and Kage

[Boquise]

@hollowkatt

Looking at yesterday. Little has changed, but Taffy was killed whom i had in the town side of things.I am ready to put Monty into the town based on the effort he made yesterday, which seems legit, while his conclusions were wrong.

Town


Ender, HK


townish


Boque, Monty


neutral


Amy


scummish


Csargo

My vote is the same as yesterday. Csargo is flying under the radar. Leaving reasoning for his votes to other people, like Monty yesterday. You should look at him closer and draw the right conclusions. Vote: Csargo

what do you mean like monty yesterday @Kagemusha

[Boquise]

and why am i townish