Casual december game

[Boquise]

"Plan" = POE. Everyone here has offered a POE at various times.

Can you describe how I've been implementing the plan? As scum I would seem to do the minimum to build cred from every one of the flips, and have been killing people who posed the least threat to me.

Look at this here from the Dya-Kage assoc catalogue,



I caught Kage slotting his partner 4th in POE in a classic tell, and I didn't try to work the information to my advantage at all.

Or from the ladd ISO:




Kage was no doubt not intended to LYLO. There's only one candidate for distancing between Kage and final scum, and that's Csargo.



Have I been making too many excuses for Csargo? Ladd-dya was famously a Six Flags water slide kind of relationship. Kage had a number of weirdly transparent associations with ladd and dya. Maybe I read too much caution into the Mafia team dynamic, wrongly ruling out Csargo for ladd-Csargo-dya on Ender or the effort to save dya D3. Could it be Csargo has slanked since D3 with bare votes, and tried to Level 1 distance his remaining partner with mutual votes even as he NKed to frame Boq?

But again, looking at VCA (EOD4):

Taffy (5): Monty, Csargo, Boquise, Renata, Taffy
Csargo (3): Amy, Kagemusha, Ender
Renata (1): Taffy
Kagemusha (1): HK

WHY wouldn't m-Csargo kill Ender here? Renata N4, fine, a dangerous-for-town kill that either Boq or Csargo could make. But N5, why spare Ender when Amy almost certainly won't make a solid showing of herself against you? It's not like I don't still POE Boq in that scenario.

I'd also like to ask Csargo who he would POE if not me.

On this issue, whatever transpired before this day is entirely irrelevant. I am feeling like you are trying to drown me out with your walls.
What I said was:
Every player but you entered today with a very set mindset. "X is scum, but if not X then Y. X is always yeeted first".
You are world building into the next day were you open it up more. I am not going to be a part of that farce and I will enjoy watching you debate yourself out of the next day tbh

[Boquise]

like i know i played terribly this game and i am ready to get roasted in dvc. I should have jumped back and voted Kage instead of leveling myself with the ladd stuff, and level myself with how Kage unnecessarily popped into the thread to make questionable posts, and to look at the vc and conclude that if both amy and ender are town then the logic wagon is pure, which I did not think it is.

[Boquise]

Monty. If you are town. You are drowning me with text where I dont know where to start and I am too unmotivated to try to parce it.

[Boquise]

I didn't sheep anyone onto Taffy, pretty sure I made a few posts surrounding why I was voting there. No reason for me to kill Renata to shade Boq, when Renata was tring me, and I could just keep them around to push Boq. Then just have two townies duking it out to distract people.

I don't really have a PoE outside of you tbh, I expect to die here today hopefully.

how can you expect to die today when the votes are on me and ender and hk have all declared their full intention to vote me out because they think I am the likeliest wolf? Like where does this expectation come from? Monty two-siding it?

[Raskolnikov]

EOD in 4 hours.

Last tally's still valid

[Boquise]

Either way,
Csargo has not set-up a lylo for himself, which he must have wanted to do considering he and Kage voted each other and then he is not even trying to rake in the credit of the votes.
Monty has set-up a lylo for himself where he lives.

I will return to vote
Vote Monty

What pauses me on Csargo is that I am putting my mind in the same situation as I did yesterday, when I decided to not vote Kage. Plus Csargo expecting himself to be voted out today doesnt sound like a real thought.

[Csargo]

I just think I've objectively posted worse than you have overall. That's basically my thought.

[Boquise]

I just think I've objectively posted worse than you have overall. That's basically my thought.

have you been here for a while or did you just pop in?
I am getting Kage flashbacks

[Csargo]

I'm just popping in occasionally

[EnderWiggin]

Mfw Monty hasn't voted yet

[Montmorency]

I didn't sheep anyone onto Taffy, pretty sure I made a few posts surrounding why I was voting there. No reason for me to kill Renata to shade Boq, when Renata was tring me, and I could just keep them around to push Boq. Then just have two townies duking it out to distract people.

I don't really have a PoE outside of you tbh, I expect to die here today hopefully.

I cited several Renata posts, despite calling them unrepresentative, indicating that she was still sussing you into D4, before she turned fully on Boq and sheeped me on Taffy.

Here is what you said about Taffy D3-4.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I didn't like a couple of Taffy posts yesterday.

The Visor should die regardless of alignment, just doesn't seem like a townie thought to me. Could also just be annoyance with Visor though.

The self-quote calling it woofy is almost twtbat, just very defensive.

HK is the only person that comes to mind that Taffy's pushed. Maybe pizza, possibly ender. Visor as well.

I'm pretty sure I used a couple 'think' and 'feels' post in Visor iso of that game, and painted that as uncertainty to prove my point in the argument. I don't think I gain anything for doing it, but read into it what you will.

Taffy can be a woof. I think the treatment of Visor's slot looks less like a townie trying to solve an alignment of a person and more I just don't want to deal with them imo. I can see Visor's perspective, but just feel like it was partially valid.

Visor quote:

taffy is a wolf because there is no attitude, just treading water, no push, no sassitude, just posting reasonable sounding thinsg while not moving the game state forward

Felt like the bolded were true yesterday when I was reading Taffy's iso. Think the other stuff was there and makes it just partially accurate.

Kage's spoken about a handful of people, voting hk, calling ladd/Taffy town, and Visor gray from what I remember. I think ladd also offered you/Kage up as people who should have been getting pressured, so idk what to make of it.

Vote:Taffy

D4

I thought [dya and taffy] were both woofs

I'm not gonna say I believe strongly in anything I say, as either alignment, that's just how I do things.

I went into yesterday wanting to look at the people Visor brought up, because I thought Visor probably had the best view of the game of anyone. So that's what I did. I'm not gonna say I did a good job, but that's what I was trying to accomplish.

I simplified what was essentially my problem with you and Taffy. I think they were reasonable to bring up, though I doubt I did a good job of it. I never looked at Boq tho, which is a problem.

I think Amy/Kage/Boq fit. I don't know why one of those names with Taffy could not be a team. I'm pretty sure that Taffy was as at a similar level to Dya until EoD, as far as posting.

Vote:Taffy

I don't remember anything that would not make Taffy/you possibly a team. That's pretty much it.

I tend to lean Ampharos/Taffy.

You made the bulk of your case on a qualified sheep of Visor (though I see you began sussing Kage at that time already), starting soon after I voted Taffy on the basis of a Csargo-Taffy solve. Your last assoc was when you approbated my D4 "slam dunk" Taffy case and Visor hype with an emoticon.

Not a lot of substance there other than sheeping, though as with the rest of your ISO it's hard to pin you down in an outright lie or a slip exactly.

Why should I believe you expect to die today if no one has even voted you. Unless you really are a loverboy.

On this issue, whatever transpired before this day is entirely irrelevant. I am feeling like you are trying to drown me out with your walls.
What I said was:
Every player but you entered today with a very set mindset. "X is scum, but if not X then Y. X is always yeeted first".
You are world building into the next day were you open it up more. I am not going to be a part of that farce and I will enjoy watching you debate yourself out of the next day tbh

If what you meant is that I'm the least settled of the living players, you should have said so. But I don't think anyone here is actually ride-or-die on solving the game with their vote, except for maybe you and Csargo, so the point deserves elaboration.

Monty. If you are town. You are drowning me with text where I dont know where to start and I am too unmotivated to try to parce it.

If this much is drowning you in text - most of it is just indexing previously-published analysis or quotes - then idk, come what may. Maybe we're all too checked out for lifting.

If you want to self-pres on Csargo, we can talk. Otherwise Vote: Boq

[Montmorency]

Mfw Monty hasn't voted yet

Near-ninja

[EnderWiggin]

Lmao.

[Boquise]

I did say so. It was very clear what I meant.

Also yeah, that much text with quotes is a lot. English isn't my first language and it becomes difficult to understand what you actually want with your posts. Me admitting that is me trying to be communicative. Your response is a middle-finger. My vote stays.

[Boquise]

also lmao no ender and hk are super cemented on me being a wolf. Dont try make it into it being just me and csargo.

[Boquise]

I'm just popping in occasionally

lol.

[Boquise]

Lmao.

so are you gonna sleep-walk into csargo tomorrow or will you play?

[Raskolnikov]

Boquise (3): Ender, HK, Monty
Monty (2): Csargo, Boquise

EOD in about 50 minutes friendos

[EnderWiggin]

so are you gonna sleep-walk into csargo tomorrow or will you play?

I promise if you flip blue then I will check Monty out carefully if I'm alive.

[Montmorency]

Guess I'll around.

Vote: Csargo

[Raskolnikov]

Boquise (2): Ender, HK
Monty (2): Csargo, Boquise
Csargo (1): Monty

[EnderWiggin]

Wut.

[EnderWiggin]

Gonna have to explain what you're doing there Monty

[Montmorency]

Gonna have to explain what you're doing there Monty

Maybe there's a wagon for Csargo.

[Raskolnikov]

Boquise (2): Ender, HK
Monty (2): Csargo, Boquise
Csargo (1): Monty

EOD in 5 minutes

[Montmorency]

I'm not that brave.

Vote: Boq

[Raskolnikov]

Boquise (3): Ender, HK, Monty
Monty (2): Csargo, Boquise

[EnderWiggin]

I hope I'm right lol.

[Montmorency]

C'mon give me one ouster all game

[Raskolnikov]

Day 6 has ended.