Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[baudib1]

I will say if this game does turn out to have something like logic/pzelda/hkatt/ender as even 2/4 wolves I will be pretty disappointed

Yeah I want some spicy wilfs

[Wisdom]

follow-up thot: setting himself up for a lazy D2 chop like this doesn't make sense unless maybe he has strong teammates with good thread/town presence who can use the "we got 'em" cred to coast to endgame

but afaik this did not exist when he fell on a sword for me, since people gave me a hard time during shitposting season and not after

it just feels, shall we say, boring

Towniest post I've seen this game!:3

[pzelda]

by that I mean, is there more than what you posted earlier ("same reaction to Syn's entrance")?

That was most of it. Kind of a weak read just to get things started.

[pzelda]

I went to bed at 7 am and I'm still kind of dead in my head...but I'll try to produce something, before going to a bar again.

[pzelda]

thats fair enuf. what I find kinda hard to come understand as something you believe is

1)



te bolded above. saying syn is solidly in their town play after their first 2 posts seems wtf to me


2)



the confidence in this post is just..weird




pzelda

and now i am gonna make a wolfy vote on a wolf i have never talked about

Fair enough.
But I would give some credit to HK for being balls to the wall with that read.

[EnderWiggin]

He is definatly a good wolf (I forgot about champ D1 too, even the bet I won tx to it), so there is that.

If we're being honest, there's not much that isn't in my wolf range lol.

[EnderWiggin]

This feels like a made-up read. Like what.

Idk chief, it's worked for me enough times in other games that I use it as a read. Dunno what else to say to you.

[pzelda]

Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.
There probably is at least one wolf on me too. If I exclude my town leans, It's either Visor or Ladd or EPH, if I remember the votes correctly.
I think Visor came early in and had some ok posts, but I don't see much of a reason behind his vote.
Eph feels simillar-ish but his posts are a tad bit easier to read and include less emojis. So, I probably would vote Visor over him.
Ladd came in late and his posts are full of intentional waffling, which might be nai, but him voting me in a post about HK is meh imho. I don't think he explained it later.

Vote: ladd

[EnderWiggin]

my strongest reads haven't really changed, rask and wisdom are town and ladd probably is

eph and yolo generally feel like they line up with villagers taking it easy but trying to be helpful, probably not the best reads but

Can you talk me through the bolded name?

That's the one name on your list that hasn't felt villagery at all to me yet.

[EnderWiggin]

Agree

I thought he was p villagery honestly

Hk posts keep being rough, idrc for the "dumbtell"

I think I'm probably going to townread this for dumb reasons.

[EnderWiggin]

yolo town

Agree

[EnderWiggin]

I'm doing little this game, but I wanna V-read ender for "logic has 2 posts and zero content."

Wasn't me bruv

[EnderWiggin]

ZERO content on page 1 and I'm on 80ppp.

C'mon guys! We have a postcap and this is how you start the game?

We...

Don't have a postcap?

Wuh?

[EnderWiggin]

Currently catching up but I'll go to sleep in a bit so I won't elaborate about anything until later. I refuse to explain anything y'all just have to trust me.

Catch up I guess.

Hk/Baudib. Some stuff I've not liked from both. Not w/w.
It's hard to read some ppl in the first few pages mostly bc of a joke-ish tone. Not that I dislike it.

I liked Wisdom entrance even if they didn't really say anything. I think the spoilered comment is townie. I think Syn is like a bit >rand v also.

I've been enjoying some of raskolnikov posts, I'd townlean him for tone alone here.

I'm townlocking and never rescinding Eph on #169 alone. I'm only partially joking. Idk how to explain it, just don't think wolves often post stuff like that (as in, "was this the guy who x? if so, town") at least not to townread people. I guess I could see it as a weird w/w post but nah.

Not vibing with Yolo.

Randomly townlocking dya for their opening. I'm just quirky like that haha. This feels both correct and a bad play.

I've gone back to the interaction and confbiased myself into believing that Yolo is a wolf alongside Baudi.

I agreed with Ladd reads. I think he's town. Or at least he should be correct. Specifically him randomly buying Dya's first post. Makes me want to townread dya but less jokingly. I've decided Ladd is town.

wtf YOLO talked about that too I thought me townreading dya off a post would be fun now it just looks like I faked a mindmeld or some shit.

Baudi randomly changing his vote to syn is sure... something. Kinda effs with my earlier beliefs.

Not sure if I dig wisdom randomly calling ladd a wolf even if it's a joke.

I think C4 is okay. I decided to trust Eph initial read on them.

Ok so I've read half of the game which is enough for me to solve.

I think Baudi/Yolo are wolves. Maybe Visor is a wolf, unsure why, just think it'd make for a nice team.

Maybe HK is a wolf which would be interesting bc makes all the three ppl I meantioned early more townie... prolly. prolly?

I've no opinion on Logic. I think Pzelda is definitely a bit weird in their posting, but idk if the way they post is AI.

Everyone I've not mentioned I'm currently ok with.

Imagine my vote is on baudi here. Will vote later after finishing reading the game. Tho ppl townreading baudi makes me feel I might just be wrong on him since I've got no meta on him despite him being around I guess.

I definitely scumread this entrance lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

unless his game has cratered in the last year, "polarize and dip" isn't his wolfing tactic. polarize, yes, but not the dipping

Not usually in his towngame either lol

[EnderWiggin]

follow-up thot: setting himself up for a lazy D2 chop like this doesn't make sense unless maybe he has strong teammates with good thread/town presence who can use the "we got 'em" cred to coast to endgame

but afaik this did not exist when he fell on a sword for me, since people gave me a hard time during shitposting season and not after

it just feels, shall we say, boring

There's also just the chance that it wasn't planned at all and he got caught with his pants down and now isn't sure how to recover.

I have seen HK do that before.

Like "I don't see the reason for him doing it" when it was a pressure progression on him doesn't make sense to me.

Wolves don't plan to be pushed.

[Logic]

@noraplus
I had read the page I first appeared on, read page 1 and complained, and started reading page 2 when my wife was annoyed I was lying in bed with the light on and not reading my book.

@baudib1 I'll be sure to give you credit for what I thought was ender.

@Visor I'm used to rules disallowing thanking of posts midgame. Rules I thought you would assume is normal. Thanking posts midgame when it's not expressly disallowed feels a tad pockety.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin

You got any non pzelda or hkatt thoughts

I've had several.

And many of them existed before HK/PZ things happened anyway.

[EnderWiggin]

Towniest post I've seen this game!:3

No appreciation for Raskol.

[EnderWiggin]

Fair enough.
But I would give some credit to HK for being balls to the wall with that read.

Have you played with HK before?

[EnderWiggin]

Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.
There probably is at least one wolf on me too. If I exclude my town leans, It's either Visor or Ladd or EPH, if I remember the votes correctly.
I think Visor came early in and had some ok posts, but I don't see much of a reason behind his vote.
Eph feels simillar-ish but his posts are a tad bit easier to read and include less emojis. So, I probably would vote Visor over him.
Ladd came in late and his posts are full of intentional waffling, which might be nai, but him voting me in a post about HK is meh imho. I don't think he explained it later.

Vote: ladd

Is your only ability to find wolves through how they push you?

Who do you think are wolves who didn't push you, and why? And how do they work with the people who did push you?

[EnderWiggin]

My reads are somewhere in the mess and it's past 2am so I'm gonna crash, poke with specific questions as you need.

[Logic]

Is your only ability to find wolves through how they push you?

Who do you think are wolves who didn't push you, and why? And how do they work with the people who did push you?

Finding wolves through how they push you is an underrated skill.
Eh, @Visor?

[Logic]

So we're still missing
Dya
Ender
SK
Logic

Noted
@Logic come here we're supposed to be masons!!!

I promise, I'm here to mason now.
@Wisdom

[Wisdom]

I promise, I'm here to mason now.
@Wisdom

Goodie goodie!

[hollowkatt]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...-december-game

and fwiw, I nailed him in that game but i was main pack wolf. I feel like he's already admitted that he is acting the same here.

he'll probably omgus me for pushing him

Picture HK leaning back in his chair mulling this post around in his mind:

Hmm, faint undertones of suspicion and paranoia coupled with a full body of self-importance all combined with the subtle bloom of wanting to be right.

Dya is town.

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt

His baseline is to be dry, acerbic, and rather unenthusiastic about existing. Oh wait that's his IRL baseline it just happens to coincide with his mafia playing baseline. Wolf Syn wants to be ingratiated into the game moreso than town Syn does. Town Syn generally doesn't give a flying fuck about anything, wants to make the posts he wants to make, and isn't looking to advance any kind of agenda, just wreck wolves.

It's probably not smart to town read Syn off of his extremely early game posts but I did it anyways and I'm happy with his posting afterwards as well.

As far as holistic thoughts about the game:

I have vastly more town reads than wolf reads. I like, for town:

you, dya, raskol, Visor, noraplus, and wisdom.
Yolo maybe.

Everyone else is some flavor of "idc/don't have a read/could be wolf" and I'm ok with that. Except Ender, I think he's furry.

I think, specifically about dya, that they're reacting hard to how I played the last game here. I was lost wolf, played it completely straight (as if I were town), helped chop two of the three members of the wolf team, then won in F3. Dya recognizing the similarities is good but arrived at the wrong conclusion. The only reason that play style worked is I had no idea who the wolf team was so I could hunt wolves as town does. Once the last pack wolf was dead I had to survive two days. We got Boq on D6 and F3 was me, Ender, and Monty. I had ender pocketed and basically voted monty and peaced out of the thread. Ender never wavered (in thread anyways) on me being town so the game was done.

I think Dya arrives at that conclusion rather naturally and is concerned that I'm using the same type of tactics/strategy in this game. The problem is that there's no lost wolf who's anti town but also uninformed. That's the only reason I was able to get the win. I "correctly" sused out Dya and got them chopped and then "correctly" voted Kagemusha to get them chopped as the last pack wolf. Then I inherited the NK and went from there.

[hollowkatt]

Is this a general sentiment of being wronged by the village or shading of me? Or are you saying wolves are pushing you?

I remember you being pretty solvey as town, you seem to have shut down here after some early pressure, sup

neither, both, not sure basically. I wanted to throw that out there for some thoughts to chew on. Didn't really see anyone other than you respond to it but I'm still doing catch up.

I am finding myself getting less and less solvy on D1 and more and more "lets get through today, see who's chopped/nk'd and then start digging in"
Maybe that's wrongo dongo but I kinda like it.

I do have thoughts on the game I've posted today so maybe that's something you can dig into

[hollowkatt]

This game is thin as hell and I'm fine with the direction/consensus of the game (namely think pzelda is a good D1 regardless of alignment and that the villagery people are correctly being villa read), I'm not doing much cuz there ain't much to do

But if you want my take(s) on something specific hmu

what makes pzelda a good d1 regardless of alignment? my experience with them is they're solid and almost never a liability.

[hollowkatt]

LMAO

I'ma be real I don't usually see wolves this brazen with 180s but I'm scared to V-read it 💀

of all of them this is the least bad

Also, I actually thought pzelda had posted some before the sus hits them but Rask was onto it immediately and Visor not long after.

Hm.

Like that's a pretty good post regardless of enders alignment.