Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[EnderWiggin]

The most recent posts from Syn don't make anything to you?

75% of the posts since I made that case have been either:
1. Nothingburgers
2. "Man, this Ender guy sure is wolfy"

[EnderWiggin]

"he's being lazy and coasting on a hyper tunnel of me"

LMAO

Wolfy-self awareness?

[hollowkatt]

idk man it kinda feels like you're doing this on purpose

you have read the OP didn't you?

Logic was poisoned by town, like......


derp-clear denied

tbh no I don't read OPs

[EnderWiggin]

EnderWiggin
I have a problem with his game because it's basically all in on:
1. HK town, sheep me
2. mediocre to bizarre spew reads
3. some seemingly controversial meta reads
4. pretty damn wolfy analysis of NKs.

He;s still going to flip V often enough that it's annoying, and I have a particularly difficult time interacting with him.
60%

This is kinda reductive explanation of my play and ignores literally all the takes that I have that aren't "HK town" and spew reads.

Which is most of them. They also aren't meta reads. Or NK analysis. My townread on Ladd was kinda a meta read okay I'll give you that.

But my Syn wolf thoughts? None of the above.

My Raskol Townread? None of the above.

Legitimately tell me you haven't read half my posts without saying you haven't read half my posts.

[hollowkatt]

tbh no I don't read OPs

definitely makes me look dumber than I am tho, maybe I should

[baudib1]

I mean if he was dead on arrival -- which I agree with -- it seems you're placing a lot of weight and emphasis on V reading people largely just for burying him

FWIW I would have bussed pzelda after his first post and think a lot of people would have, easy gamestate read ['this dude won't make it past D1/D2'] on which to move for any decent wolf

Don't mean to be overly nitpicky but am just wanting open-mindedness in the thread rn instead of shrugyeeting HK/Ender into D5

Fair enough. It’s probably the thing that’s mostly clearing for Rask/ladd/Visor who I have as V reads by play/posting independently. I’m sure you saw my post where I wanted to hardclear you for a mediocre reason but that game stats feels like a long time ago.

I don’t expect any shrug yeets to exist in this game anymore, this is fargin’ war.

[EnderWiggin]

I read it over

I dunno, I was kinda finding his pushing of you/dyachei villagery in possibly a contrarian villager way, as some people were dialoguing about how you might be a villager after you got some pushback to start then Syn just comes in like nah fuck that + the dyachei sus

It's not a ride or die read but ya thinking aloud about the mindset here

Apparently, no one is seeing what I did and I'm not sure if it's me being dumb or an Ai.mi moment.

I'll do my Baudib stuff later and then after that I'll take a look at the game and assume Syn is town and see what that looks like. Nyeh.

[baudib1]

This is kinda reductive explanation of my play and ignores literally all the takes that I have that aren't "HK town" and spew reads.

Which is most of them. They also aren't meta reads. Or NK analysis. My townread on Ladd was kinda a meta read okay I'll give you that.

But my Syn wolf thoughts? None of the above.

My Raskol Townread? None of the above.

Legitimately tell me you haven't read half my posts without saying you haven't read half my posts.

Thanks for your insight on Rask it will definitely help me sort him.

The thing is no one else is running around talking about how weird the NKs are. So who’s the wolf who’s benefiting from them?

Feel free to elaborate on your wolf read of me too.

[baudib1]

Ender, I am definitely down to work with my wolfbro Syn and the easily pocketed Dyachei to misyeet you, the most dangerous threat to the wolf team. After that I will use your case on Syn for the game-winning bus.

[EnderWiggin]

Thanks for your insight on Rask it will definitely help me sort him.

The thing is no one else is running around talking about how weird the NKs are. So who’s the wolf who’s benefiting from them?

Feel free to elaborate on your wolf read of me too.

My point was I had that townread before everything else.

The big ass townread on Rask is why I sat my ass down and ended up voting Pzelda.

Re: No one else talking about how weird the night kills are.

Who the fuck cares.

I'm not going into thread and looking around and seeing if anyone else is caring about the night kills.

I do.

Because in champs I got away with literally killing every person who sussed me in G1 to win as wolf almost in cruising fashion with DK. And no one questioned it.

I was towncored but didn't die. And no one questioned it.

Yes. NKA is wifom and wolves play the gamut of how much people care about it, and I'll definitely admit I can be tricked by it. But also ignoring it can be straight up letting wolves silence people they don't want talking for any reason.

[Ephemeral]

tbh no I don't read OPs

[EnderWiggin]

Ender, I am definitely down to work with my wolfbro Syn and the easily pocketed Dyachei to misyeet you, the most dangerous threat to the wolf team. After that I will use your case on Syn for the game-winning bus.

Hello wifom my old friend,

I've come to talk to you again.

[baudib1]

definitely makes me look dumber than I am tho, maybe I should

Ok I am a softie and am willing to give you like a 20% derp-clear.

[EnderWiggin]

Ngl this feels like a wolf!Baudib trying to bait me into keeping my focus on Syn linked to him where Syn is actually town and I'm being a chump you're using.

[EnderWiggin]

Cause this whole interaction feels entirely bait-y and that just doesn't make sense if Syn/You are actually the wolves.

[YOLOSWAG]

Also YOLO - I just left you as incomplete and I?m subject to being easily whelmed by your charisma and sick beats. Hit me up with a non-lazy read on me if you will.

I don't move til I feel it and this is the kind of game I gotta let come to me, and if Ender is town I would like to find him, gth I think he's town but am not sure I'm ready to die on this hill

I'm reading you as town because you have these micro moments of conviction that seem legit to me.

I don't feel like detailing a read on you rn. I think it's weird that there is some sentiment against you and none against Visor/ladd but idk, I guess mentally you are kind of different from them because you're top poster

[YOLOSWAG]

Ender, I am definitely down to work with my wolfbro Syn and the easily pocketed Dyachei to misyeet you, the most dangerous threat to the wolf team. After that I will use your case on Syn for the game-winning bus.

I know you're being trolly but Ender very strong villager, we just got done a game where he had some fire reads

[EnderWiggin]

Oh hey, Yolo can even verify I actually make NKA as town cause I literally just did that.

And Ladd can too but idk if he paid attention to the game after his death.

[Syn]

LMAO

Wolfy-self awareness?

no, you used that reply the last time someone asked you

[hollowkatt]

Yeah nvm the derps. HK, who are the wolf I am not threatening (outside baudib)? Is this you outing a real sus?

I feel like I can say with some amount of accuracy that the following are not wolves:
Rask
Visor
Syn
Ender
Ladd
Dya

I suspect baudib mostly because they've wanted to call me a wolf for days but aren't actually doing anything about it.
I think Eph has some wolf potential as even during D1 they were more "ingratiating and chilling with the homies" than they were about solving the game. They ended up on the right wagon but meh

Yolo is a person of interest but that's the most I can say about them at the moment. Everyone else is dead.

[EnderWiggin]

no, you used that reply the last time someone asked you

Ohp.

Welp I feel dumb.

[baudib1]

My point was I had that townread before everything else.

The big ass townread on Rask is why I sat my ass down and ended up voting Pzelda.

Re: No one else talking about how weird the night kills are.

Who the fuck cares.

I'm not going into thread and looking around and seeing if anyone else is caring about the night kills.

I do.

Because in champs I got away with literally killing every person who sussed me in G1 to win as wolf almost in cruising fashion with DK. And no one questioned it.

I was towncored but didn't die. And no one questioned it.

Yes. NKA is wifom and wolves play the gamut of how much people care about it, and I'll definitely admit I can be tricked by it. But also ignoring it can be straight up letting wolves silence people they don't want talking for any reason.

It’s clear to me that we have difficulty communicating and it’s probably 90%+ my fault.

What I want to know from you is this:
1. If the wolves want to make us feel a certain way or protect a particular player, then I kinda want details on that and not what you’re doing, which is just trying to stir up paranoia among people who currently feel comfortable working with each other.

I’ll offer you this, and maybe it will help you improve your view of the game:
The most obvious and specific thing that the NKs do are kinda point to ladd (Wisdom sus) and Nora dying over him. So maybe you should recalibrate your V read on Ladd.

And sure there’s confbias in what I’m going to say next - it feels to me like you want to generically talk about “towncore” to specifically make people sus ladd without you having to do the dirty work to actually make a case on it. Which is like - pretty elite wolfing if you can get away with it, but we’re not noobs here and have all seen this stuff before.

[YOLOSWAG]

I feel like I can say with some amount of accuracy that the following are not wolves:
Rask
Visor
Syn
Ender
Ladd
Dya

I suspect baudib mostly because they've wanted to call me a wolf for days but aren't actually doing anything about it.
I think Eph has some wolf potential as even during D1 they were more "ingratiating and chilling with the homies" than they were about solving the game. They ended up on the right wagon but meh

Yolo is a person of interest but that's the most I can say about them at the moment. Everyone else is dead.

Can you detail/link reasoning on any V read outside of Rask/dya plz

[Syn]

Ok I am a softie and am willing to give you like a 20% derp-clear.

with how many times he's done it this game, that puts him at something like 80% derp clear

[EnderWiggin]

It’s clear to me that we have difficulty communicating and it’s probably 90%+ my fault.

What I want to know from you is this:
1. If the wolves want to make us feel a certain way or protect a particular player, then I kinda want details on that and not what you’re doing, which is just trying to stir up paranoia among people who currently feel comfortable working with each other.

I’ll offer you this, and maybe it will help you improve your view of the game:
The most obvious and specific thing that the NKs do are kinda point to ladd (Wisdom sus) and Nora dying over him. So maybe you should recalibrate your V read on Ladd.

And sure there’s confbias in what I’m going to say next - it feels to me like you want to generically talk about “towncore” to specifically make people sus ladd without you having to do the dirty work to actually make a case on it. Which is like - pretty elite wolfing if you can get away with it, but we’re not noobs here and have all seen this stuff before.

Would be really sad if I follow "Towncore is infiltrated" with "But Ladd is still probably a villager" wouldn't it?

Oh wait.

[baudib1]

I don't move til I feel it and this is the kind of game I gotta let come to me, and if Ender is town I would like to find him, gth I think he's town but am not sure I'm ready to die on this hill

I'm reading you as town because you have these micro moments of conviction that seem legit to me.

I don't feel like detailing a read on you rn. I think it's weird that there is some sentiment against you and none against Visor/ladd but idk, I guess mentally you are kind of different from them because you're top poster

You’re the player in this game who probably has the best feel for what wolf!Baud does do maybe you can tell the crowd that.

[Syn]

I think Eph has some wolf potential as even during D1 they were more "ingratiating and chilling with the homies" than they were about solving the game. They ended up on the right wagon but meh

why does this make you wolf-read Eph but town-read me?

[EnderWiggin]

Like if you think I'm trying to vague people into sussing someone generally read town it 100% isn't Ladd because I'll defend him for now. I have reasons too. They are a little meta though so it doesn't escape your horrible explanation of me doing "weird meta reads".

[baudib1]

Would be really sad if I follow "Towncore is infiltrated" with "But Ladd is still probably a villager" wouldn't it?

Oh wait.

Right. So this is where I will need you to detail who you think the weird Nks point to that aren’t ladd. I am fully capable of making weird kills for specific reasons but not these (Yolo might weigh in here).

[Syn]

Like if you think I'm trying to vague people into sussing someone generally read town it 100% isn't Ladd because I'll defend him for now. I have reasons too. They are a little meta though so it doesn't escape your horrible explanation of me doing "weird meta reads".

visor said it first. get your own