Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[dyachei]

what are your thoughts on achro and why nut?

[nutella]

what are your thoughts on achro and why nut?

i'm fairly solid on him just being town on vibes and solving angle, a lot of his posts have resonated with me and feels genuinely uninformed

[Syn]

let's try agian

"he worded them in such a way that he could take credit for either way wisdom's alignment ended up being"

you said this

i say okay but he knows alignment of Wisdom as mafia because mafia know ALL ALIGNMENT

The idea that Vulgard would have to word thing in way to where he take cred regardless of how Wisdom flip is technically nonsensical right?

do I really need to explain why a wolf would deign to pretend and lie in a mafia game

[Syn]

You are the sole pure towny of this game lmao. (If you are wolfing you go to champ pal )

this is a very roomy pocket with all modern amenities

[Syn]

i dont really think this matches with how sure you seemed to be on Wisdom, that a chunk of the read was based on how other players treated Wisdom. Also not a fan how you lead into Vulgard shade

i've been shading vulgard all game wdym

[Syn]

If anyone looks at my D2 I was leery of Rask that day and put him just above wolf reads because I wasn't sure if he was JOAT.

Also I confirmed there was motion at Rask's mum N1, which is the funniest result soft I've ever done tbh.

lmao

[Syn]

reading through syn's iso, I think if vulgard is a wolf, syn very likely isn't (though I guess not impossible if he busses a lot)

riding public transit is what the cool kids do

[Syn]

this is a very roomy pocket with all modern amenities

it really was a pocket

[Vulgard]

Anyway I haven't thought it through with an ISO but assuming Rask W then I think I can probably set my lovely Boq/Lapras theory ablaze.

Cape/Vul have a lot of equity imo with Cape's vote to start the day + Boq being likely V.

Ender V
Lapras I think really can only be paired if Boq is W at this point because the worst thing they did was a post I thought they TMI'd Boq W and if that's not true then I have been fine with Lapras all game.
Nutella has been passing the vibe check
I still think it is more likely than not the ladd kill was an attempt to smear dya (although their lack of read of me is a mix of endearing and infuriating tbh)

I need to iso syn today at some point.

i think the smear dya theory is the type of thing that's going to misclear a wolf here

it's more like an excuse than a legitimate reason for a townread imo

nobody has even seriously attempted to push dya in this game i would say, there's been some suspicion but nothing much

i guess there's the argument that wolves wouldn't stick our their necks to push v!dya based on a frame nightkill but that's speculative

[Vulgard]

honestly maybe syn is a wolf too

@EnderWiggin you had a tr on this, have you found other reasons

[Achro]

i think the smear dya theory is the type of thing that's going to misclear a wolf here

it's more like an excuse than a legitimate reason for a townread imo

nobody has even seriously attempted to push dya in this game i would say, there's been some suspicion but nothing much

i guess there's the argument that wolves wouldn't stick our their necks to push v!dya based on a frame nightkill but that's speculative

I mean I think killing ladd is a good kill because ladd is good.

But I weigh the equity of a dya scum team killing ladd right when ladd's dying breath was to say dya was wolf vs a non-dya team who might think 'well that's a neat little bonus we can use at some point.'

[Achro]

Also I think there might be something oddly townie about Dya refusing to read me for days.

I mean, ladd to my knowledge never did read any of my posts before dying. Ender didn't read any of my posts for a long time either.

Secret town tells.

[Syn]

honestly maybe syn is a wolf too

@EnderWiggin you had a tr on this, have you found other reasons

pizza says only wolves say honestly

[dyachei]

i feel like we have to solve the mech thing today or we lose and that kind of sucks

[Syn]

i feel like we have to solve the mech thing today or we lose and that kind of sucks

if this is v/v violence it's LYLO tomorrow

raskol always dies today regardless.

[Raskolnikov]

rask, I think you're not allowing for the fact that ender could have thought you were JOAt. outing the info early was probably not a good move, so if ender is MD, then this is good play

it's not what I meant fwiw. I am saying Ender doesn't have any conclusive info if he is a villa. And the way he presented his results (well he didn't present his results actually, just a partial one) is just pushing another ML.

Anyway, yeah it's maybe just a bad reaction from me. but it was still a reaction from villa!me.

[Raskolnikov]

ok gl town, u will need it. (maybe I will come back if Ender posts something of interest, but ngl reading nutella/achro rn is disgusting me and this is supposed to be chill, so bye bye friendos)

[Syn]

hey raskol do you remember visor's low-power 13er on MU

frog's reaction to me "red-checking" him?

you're copying that right now

[Syn]

hey raskol do you remember visor's low-power 13er on MU

frog's reaction to me "red-checking" him?

you're copying that right now

nvm he left

why won't you 350-post :(

[Raskolnikov]

Even if I accept your math at face value that is still roughly 17% more equity above rand that you are a wolf mechanically.

But then I have to consider the fact that a very specific action had to take place night one for you to be town in this scenario, which isn't really 50/50 anymore.

Also your reaction was about as bad as I could imagine given that, mechanically speaking, what you were saying makes no sense whatsoever.

I know it isn't a red check but you could not have flailed more last night if you were a magikarp.

like this post. No I am not roughly 17%, 19%, or Idktf how much more equity above rand. I am or I have been visited by a wolf (since I am not the JOAT and I wasn't targeted N1 because it's robyn), period. So it is exactly RAND. So Ender has strictly NOTHING against me mechanically. NOTHING.

Lettuce think about his second (still unseen) peek. it's even worse, since that guy could have been visited by Visor. So a red peek means even less since he has actually more chance (50% more, 3 out of 5) to be a villa.

But Ender still outs its misleading results, him as a PR and people are assuming I am a wolf lol. And people are assuming this is good play from villa!Ender.

disgusting. any villa should reconsider tbh.

Hf

[Raskolnikov]

hey raskol do you remember visor's low-power 13er on MU

frog's reaction to me "red-checking" him?

you're copying that right now

yeah. What was frog alignment?

[dyachei]

like this post. No I am not roughly 17%, 19%, or Idktf how much more equity above rand. I am or I have been visited by a wolf (since I am not the JOAT and I wasn't targeted N1 because it's robyn), period. So it is exactly RAND. So Ender has strictly NOTHING against me mechanically. NOTHING.

Lettuce think about his second (still unseen) peek. it's even worse, since that guy could have been visited by Visor. So a red peek means even less since he has actually more chance (50% more, 3 out of 5) to be a villa.

But Ender still outs its misleading results, him as a PR and people are assuming I am a wolf lol. And people are assuming this is good play from villa!Ender.

disgusting. any villa should reconsider tbh.

Hf

@Raskolnikov

what's your solve? assume ender is town for it

[Raskolnikov]

yeah. What was frog alignment?

Oh yeah Syn, Frog, who exploded, was town. (I remember lol I was a wolf)

[Syn]

like this post. No I am not roughly 17%, 19%, or Idktf how much more equity above rand. I am or I have been visited by a wolf (since I am not the JOAT and I wasn't targeted N1 because it's robyn), period. So it is exactly RAND. So Ender has strictly NOTHING against me mechanically. NOTHING.

Lettuce think about his second (still unseen) peek. it's even worse, since that guy could have been visited by Visor. So a red peek means even less since he has actually more chance (50% more, 3 out of 5) to be a villa.

But Ender still outs its misleading results, him as a PR and people are assuming I am a wolf lol. And people are assuming this is good play from villa!Ender.

disgusting. any villa should reconsider tbh.

Hf

this argument doesn't really work given that the mech/numbers was already explained to you

[Raskolnikov]

@Raskolnikov

what's your solve? assume ender is town for it

I really don't know at this point.

I was already annoyed after Wisdom tbh, now if Ender is town I will just have to go and get healed for ptsd.

nutella is prolly one though because they have been pocketing me when I was trying to chop Wisdom, and is now just not even trying to think about the possiblity of me being a villager (and if you read my posts carefully, and I know it's hard to get past my displayed annoyance today, you will see I thought about the fact Ender could be villa, which she has not deigned to think about regarding my slot today).

past that idk lol too many things to think about and I actually don't want to rn;

[Raskolnikov]

this argument doesn't really work given that the mech/numbers was already explained to you

wat?

[dyachei]

I really don't know at this point.

I was already annoyed after Wisdom tbh, now if Ender is town I will just have to go and get healed for ptsd.

nutella is prolly one though because they have been pocketing me when I was trying to chop Wisdom, and is now just not even trying to think about the possiblity of me being a villager (and if you read my posts carefully, and I know it's hard to get past my displayed annoyance today, you will see I thought about the fact Ender could be villa, which she has not deigned to think about regarding my slot today).

past that idk lol too many things to think about and I actually don't want to rn;

I understand where you're coming from on Nutella but I think her thought process for other stuff has been her village game? And I'm not sure if I read her ISO and came out with the same conclusions as you, I'd be able to do anything other than just die

[Raskolnikov]

I understand where you're coming from on Nutella but I think her thought process for other stuff has been her village game? And I'm not sure if I read her ISO and came out with the same conclusions as you, I'd be able to do anything other than just die

She specifically thanked two posts from me when I was explaining how Wisdom was never a villager (lol). but anyway. I am taking a break because I don't think me itt rn will make it enjoyable so:





Have the scene friendos

[dyachei]

She specifically thanked two posts from me when I was explaining how Wisdom was never a villager (lol). but anyway. I am taking a break because I don't think me itt rn will make it enjoyable so:





Have the scene friendos

was just hoping to get your thoughts before you go, so take care

[Syn]

wat?

if he has two motion results, today is the best time to reveal and not when a deep wolf has a chance to CC at MYLO

keeping one result hidden until later is just good play