Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Cape90]

Meh just kill Lapras when I die. I just couldn't believe that Rask was very likely mafia there

I'm confident enough to say. Please don't stray from it :)

[nutella]

what

[nutella]

I'm confident enough to say. Please don't stray from it :)

vulgard or lapras pick one lol

[Cape90]

@Cape90 i do not understand your reaction to the claim stuff, what was the frustration aimed at, and what is your actual take on rask

That I thought Rask was super towny before the claim, then pretty much seemed outed. So I have questions about what the rest of town are up to since like. That was part of my town core

[Cape90]

You fit too well with cape for me to ignore, even if I see a slight amount of towny spark in your posts it really has not been enough.

Especially since I think vul is town again, I think I just have the team

What made Vulgards posts believe able walk me through that train of thought

[nutella]

That I thought Rask was super towny before the claim, then pretty much seemed outed. So I have questions about what the rest of town are up to since like. That was part of my town core

idk what to tell you man, i insisted at sod that rask was wolfy and i thought you were gonna consider it and you just...didnt

[Cape90]

Recovering my mind here is hard, ngl. but still worth trying.



why did you bait for JOAT reads in the first place Cape?

Robyn was saying JOAT was obvious so I just decided to see who would town tell off of it

[nutella]

What made Vulgards posts believe able walk me through that train of thought

does my elaboration a few posts down help

These in particular. He has a bit of a rocky start with liking rask's reaction which I find a bit bewildering but I went in with confbias already having thought rask w/ender md, so I think it's just a real uninformed reaction. Then he goes back and sees what I had seen from ender that makes it make sense. And reacts to cape in a way that vibes with me.

idk i still flip flopped a bit on it and still def think he can be wolf but his reaction was at least more transparent to me than yours

[Cape90]

Robyn was saying JOAT was obvious so I just decided to see who would town tell off of it

Nobody did

[Cape90]

These in particular. He has a bit of a rocky start with liking rask's reaction which I find a bit bewildering but I went in with confbias already having thought rask w/ender md, so I think it's just a real uninformed reaction. Then he goes back and sees what I had seen from ender that makes it make sense. And reacts to cape in a way that vibes with me.

Sorry I'm on mobile preoccupied and missed this. But I do remember relatively liking at least the first post there as it was similar to why I had a townread on Ender despite Ender being all snippy at pressure.

Not bad

[nutella]

if it's rask/vulgard/+1 who do you think the third can be who isn't me

[Cape90]

idk what to tell you man, i insisted at sod that rask was wolfy and i thought you were gonna consider it and you just...didnt

I did and then just dismissed the sus prematurely off my skim.

[Syn]

Well actually it is easily Syn who is towniest by a mile

thank you cape very cool

[Cape90]

if it's rask/vulgard/+1 who do you think the third can be who isn't me

I just said

Lapras

In fact I would bet it over Vulgard.

I know Vulgard has this certain wolfy thing as town that I sometimes misread him off of. I just feel like those day 2 posts especially looked wolfy.

But being more familiar with Lapras, they just are not playing like town selves

[nutella]

I just said

Lapras

In fact I would bet it over Vulgard.

I know Vulgard has this certain wolfy thing as town that I sometimes misread him off of. I just feel like those day 2 posts especially looked wolfy.

But being more familiar with Lapras, they just are not playing like town selves

this is not what i asked

[nutella]

unless you actually think lapras/vulgard are w/w but i asked you to pick one between them a few posts ago bc i think theyre incompatible

if you disagree show ur work?

[Syn]

What benefit does Vulgard get from doing something that would frame themselves 2 times?

I'm not making sense because I'm bowling but I'm just confused and will probably just take you as town if vul is wolf

i don't like these questions because one benefit is usually in people asking that question

in general though the answer is always that it can be used to build an organic-looking case if you don't recognize the agenda

"i said x then and y later, they flipped this way/they're now confirmed town, you should trust me because i developed my read"

and I generally view that as scummy when the "developed read" was first written to play both sides

[Cape90]

For some reason I forgot achro was in the game. He is town too

[nutella]

maybe everyone should do this exercise

most likely vulgard partner?

most likely lapras partner?

and to humor me, most likely cape partner?

[Cape90]

oh i forgot cape on my list. I should read his iso but it feels like a lot of wallposts

Is this why u TR me?

[Achro]

For some reason I forgot achro was in the game. He is town too

Spooky timing, I just got to my computer.

[nutella]

and I generally view that as scummy when the "developed read" was first written to play both sides

this is where you're going wrong in reading me btw

this is a towny behavior in my world

[Cape90]

you started posting really weird

Started?

[Achro]

maybe everyone should do this exercise

most likely vulgard partner?

most likely lapras partner?

and to humor me, most likely cape partner?

I mean probably Rask.

...

<_< >_>

Anyway I find Vul and Cape to be really wolfy today so they are each other's answer tbh.

However in Lapras W worlds I legitimately believe Lapras slipped and TMI'd Boq wolf and Boq just started to play better after a slow start. I can't unsee that being TMI when he was talking about anti-spew.

[nutella]

I mean probably Rask.

...

<_< >_>

Anyway I find Vul and Cape to be really wolfy today so they are each other's answer tbh.

However in Lapras W worlds I legitimately believe Lapras slipped and TMI'd Boq wolf and Boq just started to play better after a slow start. I can't unsee that being TMI when he was talking about anti-spew.

i do believe i concur with the entirety of this post

[nutella]

the lapras/boq world would be particularly funny given how we tossed them both aside so drastically

but yeah it could be

[Cape90]

Spooky timing, I just got to my computer.

I felt ur spirit as I bowled a 174

[Achro]

Just as a reminder:

I think x4/5 of the illario wagon were afk?

So he was always dying unless we united on someone else

Pretty brilliant spot for wolves to anti spew tbh and wolves can always just fake push ppl knowing means nothing

Someoje who looks uncaring is probs just wolf tho

Right, here's my problem. That's what I thought anti-spew meant. Which is a direct implication that wolves are being voted by their partners. Here's my problem with that.

You are voting Visor
Boq was voting Rask for eternity and wasn't at EOD
Ladd is dead and voting Dya and is town
Robyn is poisoned, you acknowledge that is a bad poison, so you don't think that's a wolf being voted

Meaning the only possible wolf there who was moved onto at EOD was Boq.

This feels blatantly TMI given that you aren't even really sure about Boq in your reads in thread. It would be one thing if you had a real solid read on Boq as scum, but you haven't presented that.

Also, back to the 'uncaring' votes which are off wagon you have yourself, Boq, dead ladd, dead illario, and visor

So only really Boq/Visor fit that bill.

But, also as Cape pointed out, you are misframing EOD dramatically. Ender was around for at least some of it, and Nutella and Syn had to vote Illario or Boq could have feasibly gone over because before ladd's last second vote swap it was 6-5.

This appears like you know Boq is scum and want to get in ahead of Boq's voters looking good.

Because you don't say any of this, but the only people you can reasonably be shading are cape, robyn (who you think is town), rask, and me (who you have given no indication of saying I am wolfy iirc)

It's like you want to plant the idea but you didn't really think about it too hard and hope it'd sprout, or something.

What did I get wrong?

Obviously dependent on Boq flipping wolf but uh...

To be clear- i think your theory is stupid and the most complex reality

I dont necessarily think your wolf because of it

Its just a huge bunch of logical leaps. These do generally come more from town though, and, if i recall i think you did similar things in champs?

The best part? if Rask is W it works as double TMI due to who was voting Boq.

Rask/Lapras/Boq is like, a super valid team from this post that Lapras tried to make me sound crazy for believing. Of course this post then went nowhere for Lapras as that day they wagoned Wisdom.

[nutella]

I may have to reread the boq/rask interactions tbh

[Achro]

Achro is town because no wolf has the amount of confidence he has in their OWN POSTS.

It's always town

@Cape90

Why did you say this when I hadn't been discussed in awhile?